Censorship/standard of living, while important, will not significantly stymie their economic progress.
How is demolishing a studio in any way indicative of "no new ideas coming out"? How does it make any statement on factors like China's rate of innovation?
Your argument is absolutely asinine.
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Censorship/standard of living, while important, will not significantly stymie their economic progress.
How is demolishing a studio in any way indicative of "no new ideas coming out"? How does it make any statement on factors like China's rate of innovation?
Your argument is absolutely asinine.
The studio shut down is indicative of how creativity and free thought are suppressed in that society.
Innovation requires people to think for themselves, something the gov't there suppresses quite effectively. All of the modernization in China is based on economics and technology developed in societies where using one's brain is encouraged. If you fail to see this, then why do you think the US spent the better part of the last century in a cold war with Russia?
Chinese society is more 'orderly' in some respects, but at some point they will have to either
1. liberalize the political structure so that they can move to the next phase of developement (inevitable). What technology has China actually invented in the last 200+ years?
OR
2. admit that they are incapable of developing any of their own technology, innovations, and cultural developements (they can, but if you want ideas, you gotta take the good with the bad and accept that sometimes you're not going to like it / agree......something the gov't currently won't do). If this is the case, then their society will eventually stagnate again
Censorship + standard of living are directly tied to LONG TERM growth, actually. Hell, you can have short term growth in a prison.
Censorship/standard of living, while important, will not significantly stymie their economic progress.
How is demolishing a studio in any way indicative of "no new ideas coming out"? How does it make any statement on factors like China's rate of innovation?
Your argument is absolutely asinine.
The studio shut down is indicative of how creativity and free thought are suppressed in that society.
Innovation requires people to think for themselves, something the gov't there suppresses quite effectively. All of the modernization in China is based on economics and technology developed in societies where using one's brain is encouraged. If you fail to see this, then why do you think the US spent the better part of the last century in a cold war with Russia?
Chinese society is more 'orderly' in some respects, but at some point they will have to either
1. liberalize the political structure so that they can move to the next phase of developement (inevitable). What technology has China actually invented in the last 200+ years?
OR
2. admit that they are incapable of developing any of their own technology, innovations, and cultural developements (they can, but if you want ideas, you gotta take the good with the bad and accept that sometimes you're not going to like it / agree......something the gov't currently won't do). If this is the case, then their society will eventually stagnate again
Censorship + standard of living are directly tied to LONG TERM growth, actually. Hell, you can have short term growth in a prison.
As for you, YOU are asinine
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Censorship/standard of living, while important, will not significantly stymie their economic progress.
How is demolishing a studio in any way indicative of "no new ideas coming out"? How does it make any statement on factors like China's rate of innovation?
Your argument is absolutely asinine.
The studio shut down is indicative of how creativity and free thought are suppressed in that society.
Innovation requires people to think for themselves, something the gov't there suppresses quite effectively. All of the modernization in China is based on economics and technology developed in societies where using one's brain is encouraged. If you fail to see this, then why do you think the US spent the better part of the last century in a cold war with Russia?
Chinese society is more 'orderly' in some respects, but at some point they will have to either
1. liberalize the political structure so that they can move to the next phase of developement (inevitable). What technology has China actually invented in the last 200+ years?
Why do people still believe this? I get it, it's what they have been teaching in universities since 1990 because of Fukuyama. He was wrong. Reality has clearly gone differently.
Also the article can't be found.
Never discuss with idiots, first they drag you at their level, then they beat you with experience.
I actually wouldn't mind razing all the apartments the hipsters around here live in.
On a more related note, this has almost no relation to their economic growth. It's not like the Chinese really valued art to begin with (in modern times, at least). It's taken a back seat to science and math for a while now.
Wow! So the threat of China is mitigated because they razed some guy's art studio. I skimmed the actual article and not too familiar with the background information leading up to the incident. But seriously, this is your argument?!
Arts and the hipsters scene is way too over done. I know too many folks from H.S. that couldn't really cut it and all miraculously went into Art school. Now they are trying to hang their shingles and calling themselves artists. I'm sure NYC Union Station/Brooklyn/Willaimsburg is the beacon of hope to save us from our mundane minds and driver for the future.
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I skimmed the actual article and not too familiar with the background information leading up to the incident.
Well, there's about 99% of the reason you're missing the point.
Much like Ibanking analysts who don't work on the larger picture, the majority of Chines society is nothing more than glorified slaves. Good for short term economic productivity (also make good soldiers) but bad for long term innovation.
The original point of this post was that China is merely copying us and doesn't have the capability to develope anything new on its own at this point in their history, and thus our major competitive advantage as a civilization is developing new things.......
Even without innovation, they are VERY good at taking others' innovations and doing them more efficiently. This will mean that China will ALWAYS be a threat. Your definition for what makes a country a threat is very narrow, and, frankly, is incorrect.
The one thing I will say is that most of the Chinese foreign exchange at my school come to class get great grades...... and thats it. Honestly, if I didn't purposely seek out a few of them I might not have ever noticed their existence. They seem to have a constant "I'm listening" mindset. But in business (at least in America) it is the bold that seem to get ahead.
I don't know, it just seems to me that business is all about making connections and the Chinese exchange students are like ships passing silently in the night.
The owner of that art studio, Mr.Ai WeiWei, is not merely an artist but involves into politics. Chinese government doesn't raze every art studio just for fun. But I personally believe it's better to keep his art studio as he is just a "front player" of some political faction and not important.
wow, forgot this post from 2011. WSO prevailing sentiment is pretty much a contra-indicator. should've gone long chinese tech and could've predicted shenzhen's meteoric rise after this post was made
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Censorship/standard of living, while important, will not significantly stymie their economic progress.
How is demolishing a studio in any way indicative of "no new ideas coming out"? How does it make any statement on factors like China's rate of innovation?
Your argument is absolutely asinine.
The studio shut down is indicative of how creativity and free thought are suppressed in that society.
Innovation requires people to think for themselves, something the gov't there suppresses quite effectively. All of the modernization in China is based on economics and technology developed in societies where using one's brain is encouraged. If you fail to see this, then why do you think the US spent the better part of the last century in a cold war with Russia?
Chinese society is more 'orderly' in some respects, but at some point they will have to either 1. liberalize the political structure so that they can move to the next phase of developement (inevitable). What technology has China actually invented in the last 200+ years? OR 2. admit that they are incapable of developing any of their own technology, innovations, and cultural developements (they can, but if you want ideas, you gotta take the good with the bad and accept that sometimes you're not going to like it / agree......something the gov't currently won't do). If this is the case, then their society will eventually stagnate again
Censorship + standard of living are directly tied to LONG TERM growth, actually. Hell, you can have short term growth in a prison.
As for you, YOU are asinine
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Why do people still believe this? I get it, it's what they have been teaching in universities since 1990 because of Fukuyama. He was wrong. Reality has clearly gone differently.
Also the article can't be found.
I actually wouldn't mind razing all the apartments the hipsters around here live in.
On a more related note, this has almost no relation to their economic growth. It's not like the Chinese really valued art to begin with (in modern times, at least). It's taken a back seat to science and math for a while now.
Mao destroyed a lot of priceless Chinese art and history, statues, etc... it's the communist way.
Thing is that in the long term, they will become a bit more liberalized. The threat wont go away.
hahahahaha i'm guessing UFOinsider got a nice growth in his pants after labeling somebody else as asinine
Wow! So the threat of China is mitigated because they razed some guy's art studio. I skimmed the actual article and not too familiar with the background information leading up to the incident. But seriously, this is your argument?!
Arts and the hipsters scene is way too over done. I know too many folks from H.S. that couldn't really cut it and all miraculously went into Art school. Now they are trying to hang their shingles and calling themselves artists. I'm sure NYC Union Station/Brooklyn/Willaimsburg is the beacon of hope to save us from our mundane minds and driver for the future.
Well, there's about 99% of the reason you're missing the point.
Much like Ibanking analysts who don't work on the larger picture, the majority of Chines society is nothing more than glorified slaves. Good for short term economic productivity (also make good soldiers) but bad for long term innovation.
The original point of this post was that China is merely copying us and doesn't have the capability to develope anything new on its own at this point in their history, and thus our major competitive advantage as a civilization is developing new things.......
methinks this be the wrong forum for such a conversation. my bad
Well you're wrong again...
You made a hasty assumption based on 1 trivial anecdote instead of providing wholistic evidence for what seems to be actually happening.
Even without innovation, they are VERY good at taking others' innovations and doing them more efficiently. This will mean that China will ALWAYS be a threat. Your definition for what makes a country a threat is very narrow, and, frankly, is incorrect.
The one thing I will say is that most of the Chinese foreign exchange at my school come to class get great grades...... and thats it. Honestly, if I didn't purposely seek out a few of them I might not have ever noticed their existence. They seem to have a constant "I'm listening" mindset. But in business (at least in America) it is the bold that seem to get ahead.
I don't know, it just seems to me that business is all about making connections and the Chinese exchange students are like ships passing silently in the night.
The owner of that art studio, Mr.Ai WeiWei, is not merely an artist but involves into politics. Chinese government doesn't raze every art studio just for fun. But I personally believe it's better to keep his art studio as he is just a "front player" of some political faction and not important.
This didnt age well
wow, forgot this post from 2011. WSO prevailing sentiment is pretty much a contra-indicator. should've gone long chinese tech and could've predicted shenzhen's meteoric rise after this post was made
Still no new ideas from China.
They copy everything.
Have a pathetic military(lol at 1 crappy aircraft carrier)
Horrible pollution.
Their elite want to go to school in the west (how many elite people in the west want to go to school in China lol)
They have zero celebrities or cultural figures that have world wide fame or influence
Zero athletes that have worldwide fame and cultural influence
Etc etc.
Who cares about China. Wish people would stop talking about or acknowledging them.
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