Why is Kings College not a target?

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I have doing some research on target universities and kings college is seen as a semi target/non target.
Why is this?
It is higher than Edinburgh, Lse, Warwick, Bristol, Bath, Nottingham. It is ranked fifth in uk after oxbridge, imperial and Lse. Furthermore it is 16th in the world.
What dont banks like about it?

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Comments (18)

Apr 11, 2015

Semi target ish

Their econ (and management) and maths departments are as well recognised as other universities. They also don't have a dedicated business school.

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Apr 11, 2015

Also where is it higher than LSE, Warwick, Edinburgh or ranked 5th?

Apr 11, 2015

qs rankings

Apr 11, 2015
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qs rankings

QS rankings mean shit all for banks EMEA. Its UK rankings are average.

Apr 11, 2015

Oh really? I did not know that, thats interesting.
Which ranking would you recommend? Would someone from kings stand a good chance of a FO position at a top BB?

Apr 11, 2015

No, I don't think I've seen Master students from Kings at 'a top BB'.

Apr 11, 2015

Nobody cares about these rankings like QS, FT, etc. Just when looking around in my analyst class, I always see the same universities being represented, regardless if they are #1 or #15 in a stupid ranking. There are some major feeders in Europe including Oxbridge, LSE, LBS, HEC, etc. and that hasn't changed in recent history.

Apr 11, 2015

you again?
you've been lurking around WSO for almost two years now IIRC
surprised to see you're still around, would have thought you'd be employed by now

when searching {uk+university+rankings} on google, i've found a few lists that rank universities:

http://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/league...
http://www.studyin-uk.com/uk-study-info/top-uk-uni...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rankings_of_universi...

generally speaking, king's doesn't rank in the top 10% for most lists
QS ranking by my observations are a little bit of a joke (UCL > Princeton/Yale, UManchester > Northwestern/Brown, UToronto > UTokyo, other foreign universities)

however, i think what other users have mentioned is the most salient point: KCL doesn't have a dedicated business school, so that may be a problem

despite all that, i think if one graduates with an anticipated first honors from KCL, one shouldn't have a problem at least getting interviews (assuming networking has been done)

happy to give advice; no asking for referrals please

Apr 11, 2015

"you again?
you've been lurking around WSO for almost two years now IIRC
surprised to see you're still around, would have thought you'd be employed by now"
Nope, I am still yet to graduate. Still no internship in finance yet :(

Apr 11, 2015

you can do it!
if you are in the UK, remember to also apply in hong kong and singapore, as they have a large number of UK alum

happy to give advice; no asking for referrals please

Apr 11, 2015

Yeah there is no reason why I cant. I know what I want to do now for sure.
I am at non target university now and I have been made an offer from kings to do a masters.

Apr 11, 2015
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I am looking to do a masters in maths.

I was looking at kings college and the impression I get is that it is a target-semi target?

I was looking at their entry requirements and they only require a 2:2 and a third is acceptable with a graduate diploma.

Why is their entry requirements so low?

Not a target at all, it's a kinda like a mid-tier semitarget (also note that here in the UK basically every uni which is not completely shitty is a semi-target). KCL is not renowned for maths though and I also doubt either ugrads or grads would represent a fair numbers at banks. If you are doing a masters, make it worthwhile, and try getting into a target.

Apr 11, 2015

ah ok fair enough. Thanks for your answer and info. I was wondering why their entry requirements were so low.
I would aim higher but need to be realistic. I chose the wrong course/uni for my bsc and the modules I dont like are dragging my grades down big time.
At the least it is my back up.
I may just about miss out on a 2:1 by a tiny fraction and it is the only uni recruiting 2:2 for masters

Apr 11, 2015
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ah ok fair enough. Thanks for your answer and info. I was wondering why their entry requirements were so low.

I would aim higher but need to be realistic. I chose the wrong course/uni for my bsc and the modules I dont like are dragging my grades down big time.

At the least it is my back up.

I may just about miss out on a 2:1 by a tiny fraction and it is the only uni recruiting 2:2 for masters

Where you doing your ugrad? Do you still have a chance at improving your grades? Truth be told and don't wan't to be harsh, but if you get a 2:2 don't really expect on landing a BB FO role in the future - won't happen. Although I'm not sure how this works on postgraduate level recruiting, but here's the thing that graduating with a 2:2 is an automatic dealbreaker (and probably networking won't cut that too) for ugrads.

Apr 11, 2015

Oh I am in my second year at a non target. The thing is the pure maths stuff I am getting near 80% in but it is the two non pure maths modules letting me down. We get to choose our modules next year which means I can smash it. The only problem is we apply for a masters with our second year grades at the send of our second year. Tbh I may still come out with a 2:1. I am just being pessimistic.

Apr 11, 2015
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Oh I am in my second year at a non target. The thing is the pure maths stuff I am getting near 80% in but it is the two non pure maths modules letting me down. We get to choose our modules next year which means I can smash it. The only problem is we apply for a masters with our second year grades at the send of our second year. Tbh I may still come out with a 2:1. I am just being pessimistic.

Well if an FO role is really your dream I'd say work your ass off to get a 2:1 (at least at the end of your degree) because if in fact you get a 2:2 breakin-in will be VERY unlikely. Just sayin.

Apr 11, 2015