Will trading be here in 10 years?
I know you cannot give me a yes or no answer as you can't see into the future but I hear alittle about the government intervening too much here and will basically kill trading. In 8-10 years, will Trading be a career I may be able to choose from? Yes, im 15 years old, but if you can pls hold off on the "get a girl/life/education, go outside, get some friends, it's depressing you're on this site at such a young age, come back in 5 years, etc I'd appreciate it and I'm sure others with the same question will too.
*Preparing to get shat on by prospective monkeys who "know it all" *
i'm sure something that has existed in many forms since the beginning of time will suddenly disappear because of ummm... what again?
average intelligence of WSO have sunk so f^%*ing low
lol shouldn't you been learning how to parallel park right now?
Trading has been around in modern western culture since the middle ages. It will probably be around for several hundred more years.
That said, I think it's unlikely we'll have as many traders in five years as there are today. I also think the remaining traders will probably see more moderate income.
If you're getting into this profession, do it because it's what you love. Not because it can make you money. Also, make sure you understand what the profession is. The thinking behind trading has nothing to do with long-term investing. If you can understand that trading is a short-term game and are willing to accept a 5-figure income as a trader, you'll do a lot better in this industry.
Do you really think it's going to be as low as 5 figures?
I dont think IP was predicting a compensation level, i believe what he was getting at was... "if ur not in it for the money, u'll be better off"
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You're a f*%(king tool and I'm not writing a paragraph-long reply to fill your half-empty, bottom-broke brains
I don't know. It could. Before the late 70s, traders didn't make that much more than accountants. I don't think it'll happen that fast, but if you're still a college student, it's best to learn to be content with what you have. The ability to be happy living on $35K/year vs. $85K/year is probably the most valuable asset a young college graduate can have.
Taxes are probably going to go up. We will also see more regulation. Assets will probably continue to lose value relative to consumption/inflation over the next 5-10 years. And while it would be precipitous to say a war is going to come in 10 years, economic history indicates it is a possibility. The one guaranteed asset, though, is the ability to be content regardless of what life throws at you. Taking contrarian views in this market is going to require more and more dramamine, and if you're in it for the "banker lifestyle", things may not work out as well as you think. IMHO, it's a lot tougher to make money today than it was in 2007, and it's going to keep getting tougher until we hit our secular bottom in the 35 year market cycle.
So don't do it for the money. If you want money, you are probably going to be better off in consulting, though I suspect that life is really going to stink for college students dreaming of being millionaires at 30. We've had welfare states funded on the backs of the working rich in the past, and we could EASILY see it in the future.
Would the risk and stress even be worth it if you're only making ~5 figures?
I mean sure, you love your job and everything, but if you have just as good of a chance of losing your job as before with the potential upside not being there, it seems like it wouldn't be worth the hassle to get into unless you were sure you could succeed
Well, if you enjoy it, you're going to do what you enjoy even if it is a little stressful. Being a linebacker in football can be stressful. That doesn't mean you quit the sport. And you weren't even paid for it in high school.
If you enjoy what you do, it makes it a lot easier to stay in the game.
Yeah, but playing as a linebacker in high school isn't determining if you can pay rent or not, if you lose the starting spot, the only bad thing that happens is you lose your spot.
Am I just magnifying how stressful it really is to be a trader?
Well, if you live in a shoebox, drive a rusty honda, buy all your suits at JC Penney's 60% off sale, and spend no more than $4/glass on beer, rent shouldn't be a problem after a coupla years, should it? :D
You should be a trader because you find it more fun than being a CPA. Not because it pays well. In the 70s, traders earned just enough of a risk premium to make out a little better than tax accountants between layoffs. We could easily return to that regime during our careers. Indeed, we're down significantly from the generational highs of five years ago.
If the industry cut EVERYONE's pay and I could only make $50K/year as a quant, I'd probably stick it out rather than leave for Google- at least until my prospects of retirement on a 40-acre farm by Lake Michigan started looking dicey. Pay is part of how a firm tells you it respects you, but it's not the ONLY reason you work.
Find something you enjoy doing and be content with what you have. The world is running out of resources, and hundreds of thousands of hungry people with dreams of being able to afford chicken for dinner and drive a car and own a home hit 18 every day. If you're doing something you truly enjoy- maybe it's trading- maybe it's something else- you can focus on putting your energy into that rather than worrying about the economic gloom.
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