I already had rona, so tbh even though there are different strains, I don't see the point for me. I had a normal fever and chills, got over it 100% in 72 hours.

AstraZenica's vax is out of the question for me. Same with the new mRNA stuff (don't shit on me, I'm in biotech). If I were to take one, it'd be JNJ's vaccine, which utilizes traditional tech.

 

I already had rona, so tbh even though there are different strains, I don't see the point for me.

I heard that the odds are COVID19 is gonna be like the flu. It's going to mutate ever so lightly each year that you have to get vaccinated each year.

 
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Yea that wouldnt surprise me. One of the biopharma companies is already making a vaccine variant, i forget which one. Potentially a big revenue pool for them, since the big players already have a foundation for their first vaccine.

After all, we've had coronaviruses for a long time, and they mutate. CV19 isn't too much different, except for the fact it leaked from a lab ;)

My issue is having the vax be mandatory. I've never gotten the flu or the flu vax before. And we don't have flu vax "passports" and tracking apps/devices. These things are a power grab and put us on course for a Chi-com type society.

Someone on the WSJ commented on an article and said, "The screws our overlords are turning down on us turn only one way" and I couldnt agree more.

 

Not sure if this is a troll comment, coming from a user's first post, but I'll bite anyways. Although my profile says I'm in consulting, I'm in biotech equity research and have been digging into the mRNA and DNA vaccines that are being produced.

mRNA tech hasn't been released until now due to a lot of issues while in development. And there are articles out there of people having adverse events after getting the vaccine. Just look at the CDC's study on miscarriages after getting the vaccine, its sad.

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Slides from: https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/acip/meetings/downloads/slides-2021-02/28-…

mRNA is inherently unstable. Some of the issues highlighted in a 2019 publication titled "A Comparison of Plasmid DNA and mRNA as Vaccine Technologies" list it out as such

  1. Immunostimulatory effects may decrease potency via multiple pathways:
    1. decreased stability of mRNA
    2. Decreased translation into protein
    3. effects upon desired type of immunity
  2. Known toxicity of RNA-based drugs using unnatural modified nucleoside analogues; will this occur with mRNA vaccines?
 

Already did (well the first shot anyway).

If you want to get it, there’s nothing stopping anyone over the age of 16 from signing up getting one. Assuming you’re not in Tanzania or some shit, there’s plenty for everyone.

 

If you're 16 or older, you can take the Pfizer one. If you're older than 18, any of them are fair game. Google "vaccine signup" or "vaccine signup [insert state of residence]" and you can register for a spot at a lot of different sites. You might have to be proactive to get a slot. A lot of the websites don't even ask you to list a specific medical condition, and when I got to the location to get my vaccine they just verified that I was who had signed up. They also didn't ask for a specific medical condition that warranted me getting vaccinated. Pretty easy at least in the tri-state area.

 

I've had the 1st shot, I get the 2nd on March 29th. I have to get a Covid test every time I see my Mom at her facility until I get the 2nd shot. 

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

I help with care for my parents in two different senior living facilities, so qualify for phase 1A as a caregiver in a senior living facility. I was supposed to get the first shot in January, but based on my location every place filled up for weeks until I could book an appointment. 

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

Yes. The vaccine won't make you immune to all mutations of the virus, however, it will be effective enough to prevent you from being hospitalized and significantly lower the likelihood of having any adverse effects from the virus. There's a strain in England that came from Brazil that has been really deadly for young people, and this news has really scared me into get the vaccine.

 

Yes. In "normal" times I probably wouldn't (I rarely get the flu vaccine) because I am very healthy and rarely sick. But because I believe that petty tyrants will desperately cling to anything they can to retain direct power or indirect power over our lives, I will get the vaccine to make a small contribution toward freeing ourselves from the tyrants' grasps. The less Covid-19 is in the news (as it dies out) the less likely these awful people will be able to lord their power over me. Unfortunately, I live in one of America's most Covid-brainwashed areas, so I'm going to be among the last people to be free of the grasp of the deranged and/or power hungry. 

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Exactly my thinking—I live in SF and Breed and Newsom milked the lockdown shit for months. Those clowns didn't even open outdoor dining until February and the city has one of the few winter climates for people to eat outside without freezing their asses off. So instead everyone just ate inside with friends and cases went way up

 

johnwall47

Exactly my thinking-I live in SF and Breed and Newsom milked the lockdown shit for months. Those clowns didn't even open outdoor dining until February and the city has one of the few winter climates for people to eat outside without freezing their asses off. So instead everyone just ate inside with friends and cases went way up

Because I'm not a deranged lunatic, I just don't understand the thinking of these people. It has to be some personality quirk of some people who are elected to office--they get off on the arbitrary use of power. I'm not sure what it is. Why would you purposely hurt people when you objectively know your arbitrary orders are without scientific merit and are simply being imposed to hurt others? Getting inside the mind of the deranged/evil/sociopathic is difficult. And I'm not using the word lightly--the behavior of California's politicians during Covid-19 has been evil.  

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Yes. In "normal" times I probably wouldn't (I rarely get the flu vaccine) because I am very healthy and rarely sick. But because I believe that petty tyrants will desperately cling to anything they can to retain direct power or indirect power over our lives, I will get the vaccine to make a small contribution toward freeing ourselves from the tyrants' grasps. The less Covid-19 is in the news (as it dies out) the less likely these awful people will be able to lord their power over me. Unfortunately, I live in one of America's most Covid-brainwashed areas, so I'm going to be among the last people to be free of the grasp of the deranged and/or power hungry. 

You must be fun at a party.

 

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Yes. In "normal" times I probably wouldn't (I rarely get the flu vaccine) because I am very healthy and rarely sick. But because I believe that petty tyrants will desperately cling to anything they can to retain direct power or indirect power over our lives, I will get the vaccine to make a small contribution toward freeing ourselves from the tyrants' grasps. The less Covid-19 is in the news (as it dies out) the less likely these awful people will be able to lord their power over me. Unfortunately, I live in one of America's most Covid-brainwashed areas, so I'm going to be among the last people to be free of the grasp of the deranged and/or power hungry. 

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You must be fun at a party.

This is a fairly disjointed comment. I'm a buzzkill because...my government, instituting policies that you support and I oppose, has shut down bars, restaurants, and schools and scared everyone inside for a year? How does your comment even make sense? And at a party, are you even allowed to talk to a girl without a college degree? 

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Do you really believe that the gross violations of civil liberties we've been subjected to will be lifted even after everyone's been vaccinated? I'm not even talking about locking down restaurants, I'm referring to the expanded police and surveillance powers and the increased ability of governments to rule by edict.

Ask yourself this: it has been 20 years since 9/11, and it is unlikely we will have another attack like that again, yet the post-9/11 security state apparatus and all its constitutional violations remain in place and are essentially permanent. Governments never willingly relinquish power.

 

Do you really believe that the gross violations of civil liberties we've been subjected to will be lifted even after everyone's been vaccinated? I'm not even talking about locking down restaurants, I'm referring to the expanded police and surveillance powers and the increased ability of governments to rule by edict.

Ask yourself this: it has been 20 years since 9/11, and it is unlikely we will have another attack like that again, yet the post-9/11 security state apparatus and all its constitutional violations remain in place and are essentially permanent. Governments never willingly relinquish power.

I believe the worst violations will be lifted by force of the will of the population plus hot weather, yes. I also am not an anti-vaxxer so I'm not worried about getting autism from the vaccine.

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I get where you're going with this but who is to say that people getting the vaccine will stem the tide of COVID propaganda? It's been a few months now of steady vaccination and everything is still nonstop COVID. Countries are still locked down and they're really pushing the new variant hysteria. I'd like to believe that vaccination will get the COVID "war" done with, but the power-hungry crazies will continue to milk this for many more months, if not years. When that dies out, there will be the "war" against climate change.

 

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I get where you're going with this but who is to say that people getting the vaccine will stem the tide of COVID propaganda? It's been a few months now of steady vaccination and everything is still nonstop COVID. Countries are still locked down and they're really pushing the new variant hysteria. I'd like to believe that vaccination will get the COVID "war" done with, but the power-hungry crazies will continue to milk this for many more months, if not years. When that dies out, there will be the "war" against climate change.

Yeah, I agree that it's a risk they will never relinquish power willingly. I'm hopeful that as serious cases fall dramatically, the vaccine gets rolled out widely, and the weather warms, a few brave souls will start to remove their masks. Eventually, enough people will remove the mask (say, 20%) that the less brave souls will feel like they aren't sticking out, and then the snowball rolls. I think once there is critical mass with mask removal and once schools re-open in September, society will largely return to normal/new normal. That's the hope. 

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100% yes. I have numerous friends with medical degrees and years of experience in research and clinical trials who unequivocally recommend getting the vaccine. I do not have so much hubris that I think I know better than them. I also want to do my part.

Such a good little robot.

 

Already got it & extremely happy about it. The highlight of my vaccinated life so far has been doing tequila shots with my (also vaccinated) mom after not seeing her for a year 🍹🍹🍹

10/10

 

I'm happy to get my 2nd vaccine as I really want to get a muay thai routine going again. When I go to muay thai, I get super shredded.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

I will resist as long as possible, but if I have to get one, I will try to go to Mexico and get the Russian one (Sputnik V). It doesn't have an mRNA component and is a traditional vaccine (i.e. an inactivated version of the virus that is designed to get your white blood cells into action). It's already about to widely deployed in the European Union and will end up being the most popular vaccine in the non-Western world.

 

Just got my second shot on Monday with only a sore arm as side effect. Parents got theirs and huge weight lifted off our shoulders.

People are idiots if they don’t get it. You’re willing to take a chance and get corona but not take a chance and get the vaccine? Really angers me.

 

I received both Moderna shots. I personally don't understand why people are so against getting it. Everyone against it references "0.001% death rate" which may be true (for young people). But everyone forgets to mention the after effects COVID brings. One of our portco's CFO's had COVID and still hasn't gotten his taste and smell back 3 months later, and has blood clots. Was healthy as a clam pre-COVID. Two other people I know who had it now have long-term health issues (irregular heartbeat). This is what scares me, not the death part. Just get the vaccine, what's the big deal? Someone, please enlighten me. 

 

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I received both Moderna shots. I personally don't understand why people are so against getting it. Everyone against it references "0.001% death rate" which may be true (for young people). But everyone forgets to mention the after effects COVID brings. One of our portco's CFO's had COVID and still hasn't gotten his taste and smell back 3 months later, and has blood clots. Was healthy as a clam pre-COVID. Two other people I know who had it now have long-term health issues (irregular heartbeat). This is what scares me, not the death part. Just get the vaccine, what's the big deal? Someone, please enlighten me. 

I'm a pro-vaxxer and I have been signed up to receive the vaccine for 6 weeks or so. I think the issue is that young, healthy people really don't *need* the vaccine. This is one of the first times in history healthy and relatively unaffected people have been pressured into receiving a vaccine (or, in this case, signing up to receive a vaccine) they really don't need, based on the statistics. Unnecessary pressure will necessarily lead to resistance (it's how humans are). Then you've got people like the truly atrocious Dr. Fauci saying, "We will never re-open until 90+% of the population is vaccinated," which is an impossible and ridiculous standard--if you're a person who really doesn't NEED the vaccine and the public health authorities have set an impossible standard for vaccination, you may be inclined to throw your hands into the air. Then guys like Fauci are saying, "Get the vaccine and continue fully masking and social distancing. Nothing changes." That's anti-science/anti-data and is going to disincent a portion of the population. Then you've got people discussing the dystopian idea of vaccine "passports." When the bad guys are on the side of vaccines, you're going to push a segment of the population into the anti-vax position.

What the health authorities should be saying is this: get the vaccine and resume your normal life. They won't say that because they are addicted to control and they actively want the pandemic to last forever.

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The GREAT RESET is corporate Communism and positions private corporations as the overlords over society.

It’s really the way the left gets its hands on Wall Street to drive forth policies, politics and agendas that don’t pass the smell test of Congress and the people. The Senate won’t ratify a U.N. climate change treaty? No worries; politicians will just pressure private businesses to “voluntarily” adopt clean energy standards and sustainable development practices instead. The end game is essentially the same. The White House won't mandate masks? No problem. Get the corporations to do it!

Congress won’t pass gun controls? No worries; new “great reset” standards will ensure private companies restrict firearms’ sales, and banks will restrict funds to companies selling firearms, and businesses will boot all gun-carriers from their businesses. Second Amendment, whoosh. Gone. The possibilities for control are endless.

The government can't legally mandate a mask or a vaccine because it's unconstitutional. But they can get businesses to do it for them. Retailers and airlines and bankers can say you can't travel or buy food or buy gas or withdraw money unless you wear a mask and take a vaccine.

Where it leads is here: Corporations will become the world’s rulers. Corporate elites will take over where governments now serve. Those with the most money will rule. America’s free market will fall to the dictates of the world’s wealthiest unless we STOP it now.

Remember, when you agree to give up your liberty for a small thing, it doesn't stop there. Give them an inch, they'll take a mile. Today it's just a mask. What will it be tomorrow? An anal swab? Today it's just the COVID vaccine. What will it be tomorrow? A daily injection? Cameras in your home & car? Trackers on your phone?  Why are you against it if you have nothing to hide?

What if they keep finding new strains and tell you you have to have booster shots all the time? Will you agree to take a booster shot every month in order to go to your bank, shop at your local store, take a subway or fly on the airlines? Will you agree to have every word recorded and every move tracked to make SURE you are fully vaccinated at all times? Will you subject your children to the same? Will you stand by while your neighbors are rounded up and arrested for refusing to vaccinate, wear a mask or for speaking out against the Government? Because that's what it's like living in Communist China RIGHT NOW.

 

The global "health experts" at WHO are pushing hard to vaccinate everybody in the world every year with something that they control. That's not good. Who knows what they're going to put in those vaccines? Who knows what instructions they will give the mRNA to do to our cells? Everyone needs to do their own research and make good decisions for themselves & their families going forward.

You know that Trump was totally against Huawei because it's the telecommunications arm of the Communist Chinese military, right? In fact, Communist China was threatening several countries with the virus, and also threatened to cut off their medical supplies and pharmaceuticals, unless they bought the Huawei technology. Why would they do that? Trump's team went around the world to convince countries not to buy Huawei equipment from Communist China. I believe they also tried to assassinate world leaders who refused to comply - like Boris Johnson, Trump & Bolsonaro. Yet countries in the Middle East are embracing Huawei technology and letting them build out smart cities. So, either they're working with Communist China and the NWO and totally trust them or they don't realize that by doing this it allows the new world order to control every aspect of their being. What many believe will happen is that Huawei technology will be able to turn people on and off through a virus-sized transistor that is delivered into the human body through a vaccine. On an individual household or grid basis. These virus-sized transistors can enter a cell without harming it and can be used to download a new "operating system" into our bodies and control a population. This is NOT a conspiracy. It's very real and they've been working on this for decades. IMHO, they already do this in China on a small scale. Wuhan was the test market. If you want to roll out a digital currency and a digital method of controlling the world population, you have to conduct test markets first. Remember all those people that were stricken on the street in Wuhan last December? I believe they were literally turned off by the Communist Party remotely. In fact, there's proof that Wuhan was wired with Huawei immediately before the virus struck - for this test. Remember that they flooded the city of Wuhan & incinerated the bodies to remove all the evidence of the test. Communist China is already using "gene therapy" to create a half-robot, half-human military that is immune to bio-weapon attacks. Why would they do that unless they intend to launch bio-weapon attacks themselves. 

Don't believe me, google Transhumanism for yourself.

 

The US should require mandatory vaccination of everyone. Less freedom in this area means much more freedom in other areas. Americans think that freedom means not wearing masks, taking vaccines, and gun ownership. Americans are so selfish and ignorant.

 

If 100% of America got vaccinated, it would be an incredible economic unlock and give Americans all of the freedoms to do what they want in their every day life, the biggest detractor for freedom is not masks or a vaccine, it’s the virus itself. I would argue that New Zealand or Taiwan are the freest places on the planet right now simply due to the fact that there is no virus. Other people’s “freedom” to not get vaccinated infringes on the people they infect and kill with COVID-19, the freedom to life outweighs everything else.

 

consluttant

not everyone can get the vaccine

we need everyone who can to get it so that those who can't don't get killed

it's not that hard of a concept

Not everyone can get the vaccine because there isn’t enough of a supply atm. Your point ?

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Getting it tomorrow because I am minorly immunocompromised. If you really want it, you can find a somewhat sketchy online doctor to write you a doctor's note for it.

Don’t tell me you faked a high risk profile...

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Personally, no. Not at risk and have 0 interest in getting poked with something experimental to avoid a virus I have a >99% chance of surviving. Especially when even with that there's no guarantee all the other freedom infringements stop. Fauci and Biden keep saying that even after the vaccine is widely distributed there's a chance they keep utilizing targeted shutdowns, social distancing, encourage mask mandates, etc. So what's even the point? If you're older, overweight, or otherwise in an at-risk category then by all means you should be able to get it for free as soon as possible in my opinion. But therein lies the point of giving people the freedom to choose what's right for them.

"The obedient always think of themselves as virtuous rather than cowardly" - Robert A. Wilson | "If you don't have any enemies in life you have never stood up for anything" - Winston Churchill | "It's a testament to the sheer belligerence of the profession that people would rather argue about the 'risk-adjusted returns' of using inferior tooth cleaning methods." - kellycriterion
 

Yes I will get the vaccine. Both of my neighbors are doctors and both obviously have the vaccine. They had a couple days of elevated fever post-vaccine and now they're fine.

Be excellent to each other, and party on, dudes.
 

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I will not be getting the vaccine. My risk profile allows me to do whatever I want. I've never had the flu vaccine as an adult, and I've been fine. Maybe as I age (currently 29), I will choose differently, but right now I'm healthy as an ox, so I don't see a point. Corona isn't going anywhere, and I'll just wait a bit to see if there are any long-term effects from the vaccine. Who knows? I don't and neither do any doctors right now. These things aren't even FDA approved. No thanks.

Healthy as an Ox is irrelevant. Blood type and viral load exposure is likely more Important.  Yes chances are low you will die, but you could end up hospitalized by some of these new variants that are killing young people in Brazil and elsewhere.  You could also become a Covid long hauler and end up working at piper j due to low energy during interviews 

 

I'll get the vaccine. 

My aunt has been hospitalized twice after getting each dose of the shot. She is incredibly unhealthy though which is why I think she's had these complications (she is probably 50 pounds overweight, drinks soda instead of water so she's likely not adequately hydrated most of the time, and claims to be allergic to lettuce). 

 

One of my parents has allergies and got some symptoms like the cold and a headache after after getting the vaccine as well. Though, I'm pretty sure this is just a potential side effect of the immune system preparing to fight the actual virus and it's better than taking the risk of getting serious complications later from the virus. Most are going to get exposed to it once we stop wearing masks and start working in the office.

 

I think that's what most are going to experience if they experience side effects. My aunt though was vomiting non stop and light headed after each shot. They kept her in the hospital each time for about 12 hours with an IV and let her rest and she was fine. 

Given that she considers chicken a vegetable (doesn't eat fruits or veggies) and has a steady fast food diet I'm not shocked because if it wasn't this she'd have randomly gotten shingles (her immune system is awful). 

Not trying to discourage people from getting it just sharing the most extreme outcome I've noticed from it. 

 

Definitely getting it and looking forward to it. I never got the flu vaccine but was considering it. Had COVID, never felt so shitty in my life for a week (I never get sick). Still cant smell right 3 months later. Wife still coughing 3 months later. Good friend who'd ride his bike 2 hrs a day barely getting up the steps. I dont wanna feel that shitty again, and simply said, getting the vaccine that MIGHT have long term effects is better than having the risk of a really shitty disease (and spreading it) with definite long term effects.

 

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