Working as intern at Yale investments office vs Girls Who Invest Program
Which is the way to go to maximize learning opp? Which would lead to more opps in the future? Girls who invest basically teaches you finance for 4 weeks before setting you up with a 6 week internship among an impressive list of firms but Yale investment’s office has Swensen as its leader. I can’t post a link to girls who Invest’s website because I don’t have enough bananas, but it’s pretty well established and I know many people who tried it and loved it. This would be for sophomore summer btw
Never heard of Yale Investments office until now, but what are you doing there? Who cares about the leader...you could say you're a fulfillment worker at Amazon warehouse but put on the resume you've worked for Jeff Bezos, catch my drift? Please specify what you're doing at the investment office and then determine if it's worth the "name" over the GWI program. To me, the position is more valuable than the name with certain exceptions.
^^ lol at that first comment and a huge wtf
I'd take Yale but you probably can't go wrong depending on the firms that have an agreement with the Girls Who Invest program. You probably go to Yale given you got that internship...you'll be fine either way.
Since I'm really new to this, I don't know enough about finance to be able to assess GWI's partners besides the obvious big names that jump out at me. They list these partners on their website (so I think they have internships with these firms), but I'm not quite sure what to make of these partner firms. Are these firms for the most part well-known? Again, I don't have control over internship placement so I could end up anywhere, but I think the possibilities are all on this list. There are 150 other girls in the program. Not sure how selective it is.
VISTA PIMCO Bloomberg Philanthropies Baupost Group BMGI Farallon Harrison Street Oaktree TPG Barings BlackRock Blackstone Carlson Causeway Corbin Capital Partners DE Shaw & Co Dodge & Cox Franklin Templeton Investments Guardian GMO Goldman Sachs JP Morgan Asset Management MacQuarie Morgan Stanley Oppenheimer Funds PGIM Searchlight United Capital Financial Life Management Warburg Pincus Wellington Management Abrams Capital Adage Capital Management Alliance Bernstein Alpine Investors American Century Investments Angelo Gordon Bank of America BMO Bank of Montreal Brandwine Global The Carlyle Group Carval Investors Crestview GCM Grosvenor General Atlantic Glenmede Investment Management Global Atlantic Financial Group Gray Foundation Greenspring Associates Guggenheim Hamilton Lane Harris Associates Oakmark Funds Janus Henderson Investors KKR Loomis Sayles Man Mellon Oha Oak Hill Investors Oak Hill Capital Partners Partners Group PNC PPC Public Pension Capital Global Asset Management Rockpoint Group Select Equity StepStone Summit Partners Taconic Capital TCW T.Row Price Walter Scott Wells Fargo Asset Management WCAS Western Asset William Blair I've had some coffee chats with people who have done the investments office internship and they seemed to adore it, but I feel like GWI would give me a better representation of the industry given that Yale is unique in what they do and how they do it. GWI would also pair me with a female mentor and allow me to meet girls from across the country, although I've been assured that Yale's office also introduces you to important people as well. The people at Yale's office are super sweet and friendly and the work environment seems amazing, though I don't think I'd learn as many hard technical skills if I worked on the endowment with them because they outsource to managers.
LOL wtf is this for real? That's an impressive list of firms.
GWI is one of the highest-impact opportunities a college student could undertake -- I highly recommend it. Biggest question is how much control you would have over placement, but some of these sophomore buy-side programs are exclusive to GWI, and it's a great way to gain access to (1) the resources, network, and mentorship structure that GWI really focuses on building; and (2) a more general investing platform that might open different doors down the line.
I don't think you can go wrong either way! Congrats :)
May I ask what your experience is with GWI? Were you a participant or did you know someone who participated in it?
I'm a male junior who has a few friends who've done it, and I've heard nothing but good things (+ I'm all about these mentorship + talent-building programs. GWI goes even deeper because you remain in their active network post-GWI). You mentioned that you know students who've done it, so you have as much or more insight than I do. I don't think all the partners are equal, but the vast majority of them are an unbelievable opportunity to gain exposure to direct investing. The training program is also super strong! The one caveat is that I don't know what your experience at the Yale office would actually look like -- if you're doing general investment analysis and participating in conversations about valuation/risk allocation, I'd say that's pretty exciting. I'd try to find out more.
Just know that GWI is a one-of-a-kind experience to learn a lot and apply it directly at a firm that is excited to support your growth (I wish I could have had something similar!), and I don't think you'd regret taking it.
Looking at the list of firms - damm I wish I had a pussy.
Let me know if you decide to accept your GWI offer, I will be doing the program this summer!
I did end up accepting GWI!
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