Working in Wisconsin
Was going to make a throwaway, but who give a rip. Before you berate me with insults, hear me out.
I have in-laws who live near Green Bay, Wisconsin. They are not doing well health wise and I am now exploring the option to move to somewhere within 2 hours of Green Bay, WI in order to be a short drive away versus a connecting flight from the East Coast.
What are some of the more corporate heavy cities in Wisconsin where one could continue in a corporate finance capacity? What cities would be a good start to begin exploring this idea? Madison? Green Bay? Milwaukee? Wausau? Enlighten me. I have traveled to WI with the wife to associate with her family, but have never spent considerable time exploring or considered looking into the local business economy.
Last year I booked a trip to see my uncle as he was not doing well. He died the week before I was able to fly out…my arranged flight was used for the funeral. My grandfather died in the same manner. I had purchased a bus ticket to get to the large city where he was in hospice and I left ONE day too late. These misses cut deeper than you can imagine. I don’t wish for our family to witness similar accounts with their beloved relatives.
Sorry to hear about your loss, and it's very inspiring to hear that you want to help out your family.
I'm not too familiar with Wisconsin, though I have some family in Madison that does work with the university and real estate I think. Finance jobs in Wisconsin are probably going to be based in Milwaukee. US Bank has a pretty large operation there I think, and Robert W. Baird is based out of there.
Thanks man. Getting the call this weekend brought up the pain of my poor prioritization of the past.
Not sure what your background is but Milwaukee's basically your only option, as Madison is dominated by the university and Epic Systems. Your best bets in Milwaukee for corporate finance would probably be US Bank and Baird as mentioned above, as well as MillerCoors, Harley Davidson, GE, Kohl's, Northwestern Mutual, BMO Harris, and Rockwell Automation.
Thank you. Corporate finance (treasury) in both private and public organizations.
Think Madison is closer to 3hrs away but perhaps the University of Wisconsin endowment fund?
https://www.supportuw.org/about-us/investments/
Deleted. Confused Milwaukee with Minneapolis.
It’s pretty much just going to be Milwaukee but there’s a number of large companies headquarters there that have meaningful corporate finance presences. Maybe not the cutting edge of the world but you shouldn’t have a problem finding a gig
https://www.biztimes.com/2018/industries/energy-environment/wisconsin-h…
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The Wisconsin-based firms on the Fortune 500 list are:
104: Northwestern Mutual Life Insurance Co., Milwaukee, $29.3 billion (down from 97) 143: ManpowerGroup, Milwaukee, $21 billion (up from 146) 157: Kohl’s Corp., Menomonee Falls, $19.1 billion (down from 150) 311: American Family Insurance Group, Madison, $9.5 billion (up from 315) 372: WEC Energy Group, Milwaukee, $7.6 billion (down from 368) 414: Oshkosh Corp., Oshkosh, $6.8 billion (up from 425) 445: Rockwell Automation Inc., Milwaukee, $6.3 billion (down from 442) 487: Fiserv Inc., Brookfield, $5.7 billion (down from 471) 488: Harley-Davidson Inc., Milwaukee, $5.6 billion (down from 435)
And 13 more Wisconsin companies were ranked in the Fortune 1000. They are:
567: Schneider National Inc., Green Bay, $4.4 billion 593: Quad/Graphics Inc., Sussex, $4.1 billion 597: Bemis Co. Inc., Neenah, $4 billion 602: Snap-on Inc., Kenosha, $4 billion 660: CUNA Mutual Group, Madison, $3.5 billion 682: Alliant Energy Corp., Madison, $3.3 billion 688: Regal Beloit Corp., Beloit, $3.3 billion 694: Sentry Insurance Group, Stevens Point, $3.3 billion 732: A.O. Smith Corp., Milwaukee, $3 billion 825: Plexus Corp., Neenah, $2.5 billion 854: Gardner Denver Holdings Inc., Milwaukee, $2.4 billion 887: REV Group Inc., Milwaukee, $2.3 billion 982: Rexnord Corp., Milwaukee, $1.9 billion
Kimberly-Clark in Appleton could be a good option.
Kohler is another one to take a look at.
Bucyrus was a big company acquired by CAT that still has a lot of people in Wisconsin.
Sorry to hear about your situation. Not only is there nothing wrong with what you're doing, but it's admirable. I dont know Wisconsin that well, but I do have a few thoughts:
If you decide to look on the Illinois side of the border shoot me a PM and I can probably assist a little more.
Thank you. This is all a brainstorm at the moment. Heading out to GB this weekend and will see what the plan is. For all I know they will wish to move to a more senior community. They always talked about some fancy assisted living facility in FL. I don't know if that ship is still at port or if it's since sailed. Lots on my mind as you can see.
resident GB fan here and married into a family of cheeseheads. My personal opinion is you should move close by, but not to Wisconsin. Chicago has 9 daily flights to GRB (direct) and I know Milwaukee does too (and only a short drive from Chicago). so if you want to be able to get there in a moment's notice, I don't see a huge advantage of Madison versus Chicago.
Chicago is a 3.5 hour drive to green bay with orders of magnitude more job opportunities. madison is 2.5 hours away. don't let one hour less drive time hamper your career prospects. I did a 3.5 hour drive one way every week for about 4 years. it sucks, but it's doable.
regardless of what you do though, root for the packers, please.
I do dig the Cheesehead community. It feels so much like rooting for the hometown heroes on a Friday night versus a big corporate team in a heavily product placed marketed conglomerate stadium.
Will take a look in Chicago. I have a slight (ok huge) vice after growing up poor in the outskirts and watching the Daley Dynasty destroy the city. Moved East and haven't looked back.
Thread jack, but I also married into a family of cheeseheads (literally, they own a cheese/whey manufacturing co.) Where is your wife from?
North of Green Bay on Lake Michigan. It's a pretty surreal area.
I like my anonymity bro, so I'll just say we don't argue during football season.
I did most of my flight training around Oshkosh Wisconsin. One thing I recall was even in a slow Cessna 172, when flying south I'd have to be careful of Chicago's airspace as it was quite close.
That makes me think you could work out of Chicago and you're a 30 min - 1-hour flight away/3.5 hour drive. I'm sure opportunities are bigger out in Chicago than WI, but depends on if you want to live in a more expensive city/are set on living in Wisco.
WISCONSIN is a SHITHOLE which smells like CHEESE.
Time and place, Lloyd -- time and place
I suggest Milwaukee. Its actually almost 2 hours on the dot from downtown Milwaukee to Green Bay and I make this drive relatively often.
Some companies I recommend for Corporate finance positions are
Northwestern Mutual BMO Harris Rockwell (Corporate Development) Quad/Graphics REV Group Rexnord Charter Steel
Another great company that is not in Milwaukee but actually about 30 minutes north is Kohler. They have a TON of Corporate finance positions and a pretty strong corporate development team as well.
I actually live in Milwaukee right now and would be more than happy to answer any questions just shoot me a PM
Appreciate it. What is your take on living in/near Milwaukee?
I'd completely steer clear of northwestern mutual bro
I live downtown and really enjoy working here. There really is no such thing as "traffic" so if you looked to move to the suburbs the commute is super easy compared to other cities. I can go into much greater detail if needed...
Not sure if you have interests on the buy side, but Milwaukee also has a surprising number of smaller buy side shops: BMO Asset Management, 1492 Capital, Skylands Capital, Lubar Co.
I knew two folks who worked in GE's FLDP program and they both had rotations in Milwaukee (I think GE Healthcare is out there)
You may want to consider Minneapolis and St. Paul as well. It would be a longer drive (4 -5 hours), but flights are easy and you wouldn't have to deal with connections. Minnesota has a number of F500 companies, and there are a number of banks in the Twin Cities (Wells, US Bank, smaller IBs, etc.).
I love Minneapolis, but Chicago is closer, and would provide more opportunity for OP.
Plenty of good companies in Milwaukee, green bay area, no need to live in Chicago or Minneapolis, that is just ignorance. I live in Chicago and work in Wisconsin constantly, stay north in cheeseland. Any no fucking was is green bay to chicago 3.5 hours. you leave green bay and hit milaukee rush hour and the tail end of chicago rush hour. more like 4.5 hours to more.
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