making music - facing rejection
I like singing and am trying to form a band in my town but keep getting rejected by other musicians both in my town and on the internet, all of the other hobbyist musicians are rejecting me - it's not like I'm trying out to be a part of some famous rock group, no, I'm just trying to join a band for fun, but I am still failing massively when it comes to doing that.
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I told this guy who I met on Reddit 'I am not the greatest singer' before he sent me the track to sing over and then after I sent it back to him he told me 'We aren't exactly on the same page when it comes to music... can you please remove my instrumental from your SoundCloud and please don't post that song.'
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I tried out for this progressive metal band in my town and got rejected after I sent them some demos singing over their tracks.
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I got rejected by this punk/post punk/alt rock band after I sent them my SoundCloud
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I got rejected by this guitarist/bass player after I sent him my SoundCloud, he said 'I just think we are looking to do things that are a bit too different to work out.'
I honestly don't have the best voice but I think that I have an interesting sound and can sing the songs that I've come up with myself well enough since they are like my songs.
Also you know who else has a shitty voice? Trent Reznor and Billy Corgan. But their voices work for the type of music that they are making.
I have a ton of ideas for songs but I don't enjoy trying to come up with the instrumental to fit the vocals in my music making software, I'd rather just come up with the vocals and do that part - I also think that it would be fun to just be a part of a band.
I am not sure that there is a question to ask here, I mainly just wanted to complain, and share my experience with trying to start a band so far. Does anyone else like making music?
Billy Corgan is talented. I challenge you to sing “Tonight.”
everything about that song is beautiful except for billy corgan's voice, he ruins what could have been a great song
What about “Bullet with Butterfly wings” - that is a classic
at first I was just messing around saying that his voice sucks but now that I'm listening to the songs that you've suggested, it only confirms what I thought to be true, his voice sucks.
You’re doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. Why don’t you find a coach / get lessons?
taking singing lessons doesn't seem very much in the spirit of rock and roll
Hopefully you're not worse than the "Island Boys" - they are so terrible.
I think that me and the Island Boys would be considered to be in separate genres, I am looking to do more alt rock type of stuff.
Take a song with just the instrumentals and sing along and post it here so we can analyze your prospective talent.
Brian Molko (Placebo) has the greatest voice of all time in my opinion.
Another one with a killer voice is Adam Gontier (Three Days Grace)
Also Jeremy Enigk (Sunny Day Real Estate) has an interesting voice
do share your Soundcloud?
If you PM me I will link you to it.
Another one with a cool voice is Mark Hollis (Talk Talk). Also here is another message that I just got: "So, like, all your tracks are super short and kinda weird. I don't mean that in a bad way, I'm just not sure if that's gonna mesh well with my style."
I hope I am not too late and I hope you see this. I might still be a junior in the finance side of things but if you check some of my previous posts I have quite a long history in the music business as an artist and have worked with major labels before.
The number one secret to sounding good on a record is getting a producer that makes you want to sound good. Sony, Universal, Warner Bros and all independent labels know this when they sign artists that can't sing which is about 40% of the time. I literally cannot sing either and got a record deal which I wanted to turn down as described in my "who wants to start a label" post a few weeks ago.
I am a terrible singer and do not even understand the concept of staying in key. I thought I had no chance before I started to listen to songs where the artist couldn't sing but somehow sounded majestic and I started dumping the producers who would just click record in the studio (this is extremely common) and developed deep relationships with producers who would work to make me sound really good because they actually cared about me.
And what they would do is simply listen to what key i'm singing in then develop the song around they keys and notes I am hitting (very simplistic explanation). Like I said I don't know how to sing in any key but they would simply adjust the song so it sounds good.
If you don't believe me that this works listen to this classic -->
and skip to 3.55 and listen to the end, she was literally screeching over the high notes.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9jbdgZidu8 <----- another really good example, the lead singer of that band literally did not have teeth when he recorded that song and many other irish classics he would just sing his part and the producer would do the rest.
I meant to say, get a producer that "wants to make you sound good"
interesting. what genre of music do you make? I assume that it might be a bit different if you are a rapper or singing over beats or whatever in terms of just linking up with a producer. might be a bit different from what I'm trying to do which is like alt rock, like I'm trying to form a band in my city, I need to find a drummer, bass player, and guitar player. since I haven't been able to find bandmates yet I've just been messing around lately collaborating with people on the bedroom bands subreddit who are more of like electronic type beat makers, and singing over their electronic type of beats, which has been fun for just trying to get more experience. most of my best ideas I haven't used yet because I'm waiting to use them in this band that I am trying to form (I haven't really even made that many complete songs I more so just have a lot of ideas ready). also how did you even get to the point where you were talking to a record label? do you have to have a big fanbase to do something like that, or do you just have to have really great demos?
Totally agree, especially in modern times. Even the pop artists who are fucking amazing singers (random examples: Demi Lovato, Sia, Adele, etc.) have a lot of studio help and you can hear it with a careful ear vs. their live performances.
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