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Physical Trading Outside EU/US
Hi all, looking for some advice on possible career paths in physical trading/commodities shops in APAC. I'm specifically interested in ops roles, and might even be interested in ops long-term, but from what I've seen most opportunities in any capacity are in EU/US, which isn't an option right now...
Looking Coffee trading advice
I´ve been recently tasked to handle some of the trades of the Chairman of the company I work for. I'm new to commodities trading and I was wondering where could I learn more about the topic. He usually trades futures in the NY and London Coffee Markets. I´ll appreciate your help.
Cargo - Tracking Intelligence Company (Commodities) Market Analyst Career Development
Hi Al, I've recently been offered a analyst role with a cargo-tracking (commodities) intelligence firm (eg: Genscape, Vortexa). My role involves managing huge datasets, market analysis and sales support. What do you think of career development opportunities in this role in general? Thanks!
Consignment Leasing of Commodities
Hello everyone, This may be a long shot but does anyone in our community have experience with *consignment leasing facilities *for commodities. I'm thinking precious metals (platinum, palladium, rhodium, other PGMs, etc.) and other high volatility assets that companies hold on their balance sheet...
Best Commodities Products?
What commodities are best to trade in the mid/long term? Talking about physical trading at Glencore, Vitol, Trafigura...etc Currently an undergrad in Europe and I have the opportunity to work part-time as an assistant LNG or Copper trader. Physical, not paper trading. I will probably chose the LNG...
Commodities/Oil Trading at Companies like Glencore, Trafigura, Vitol, Etc.
Looking for a brief overview of the trading done at big commodity shops like the companies listed in the title. What is compensation like (does it rival I.B.)? How often does a trader travel? Do they give internships/training programs out of university or do most people work at a big oil company...
Commodity sales - what to expect?
Hi, long time lurker, first time poster and so on. I've got an interview for a commodity corporate sales team coming up. Can someone shed some light on the technicals one might expect? I assume there will be a lot of stuff on hedging and structuring (this being a corporate role), so brushing up on...
Insight on Traxys?
Hey everyone, I have an interview coming up with Traxys for Commodities Trading and Logistics. I just wanted to know if anyone has some insight about the firm, and how you think an internship there would look on a resume, as I couldn't find anything on here. I know they work with strictly metals and...
Macquarie CGM
I’m curious if anyone knows which teams and desks within Macquarie’s Commodities and Global Merkets group are performing well right now. Or if anyone has any recommendations for someone with an upcoming rotational internship on which functions/teams to request. Thank you!
Offer at a Supermajor
Hello everyone. I need advice from people in Commodity Trading. I have been offered a role of Marine Coordinator/Operator at a Super Major. I have also interned in Risk for another Super Major. I want to work as a trader in commodities in the future and know that operations knowledge is very useful...
Stay on commods desk at BB or move to glencore/trafigura?
I've been on my desk (metals) for two years. I like it here, i still feel like i'm learning, and i do think i could have a successful career here into the future. I don't want to name names but it is considered in the top tier in commodities. However, i have an opportunity to move to a top trading...
From Marketing Intern to Front Office Role
Hi all, To start this story, I started my senior year of school with no real experience, and was attending a non target school in NYC with a average GPA. I didn't know what I wanted to do after graduating, all I knew is that I wanted to do something in business. At the start of my senior year, I was...
Run me through a typical physical crude/products/gas/ base metals trade.
Hi all. I'm a university student looking to breaking into physical commodity trading. Hoping some current or former traders would be happy to chronologically run me through a typical "trade" or "deal," covering pricing, logistics, finance etc. Would also be interesting to hear, seperatley, how...
Project advice on commodities trading
Hi. Advice needed for project ideas on commodity trading. For example, I have built macros to price vanilla options as well as option strategies and calculate and chart their Greeks. I'm seeking something of this sort ( programming involved or not) that I can pursue as a personal project related to...
XOM Staffing Up Trade Desk
Looking to get some of the opinions of the other physical trade guys in the forum, but anyone feel free to chime in. Given the moves XOM has made, what are your opinions on having another monster trading shop coming into the market? I agree with the sentiment that they arent going to start paper...
What is the best way to transition from metals and mining to investment banking?
Just to give some background information about myself, I currently work at an international resource advisory firm. There my role is to provide technical due diligence for mine acquisitions. I'm interested in entering IB because of the greater emphasis on financial modelling, an aspect of my work...
Advice for Graduation: Oxbridge vs Masters with part time job
Hey guys! I am looking for some advice for my choice of graduate studies. I am considering the following options but don't know which one to choose: 1. Masters at Oxbridge for 1 year. Pros: The name, gets me in the target schools for FO , great networking opportunities, great student life (I hope),...
HELP REQUIRED - GUIDANCE: COMMODITIES TRADING
Dear all, In brief, I have been working for around 2 years in the Middle-East in trading of soft commodities (physical) and I have acquired various operational & business skills in trade finance, logistics, market research, and business development. Prior to that I had worked for 4 years for a...
Traders: Finding Weather Data for EM Countries to trade Commodities
Note: not about trading weather futures. For the guys on the FICC desk or the experienced personal traders, how do you guys analyze the weather in a different country like Brazil if you don't have a Bloomberg Terminal? Trying to find a good website that I can use to trade commodities/FX out of a...
Risk departement internship at Commodities trading house
Hey Guys! I am looking for some advice concerning an internship I may have this summer. I am an undergraduate student with a background in mathematics. While my original plan was to find something at a BB , it turns out that I have a very good shot at an internship at a big commodities trading house...
Transition from Air Force Intelligence Analyst to Investment Analyst
I'm a 20 year old Australian Intelligence Analyst looking to break into investment analysis after my 2 years of service here in the Australian Air Force. I'm interested in Investment banking and Commodities trading . How marketable are my service skills in the financial industry? I'm not looking to...
Energy Aspects Thoughts
Hey WSO Community, I'm on the commodity side of things and we look at quite a bit of research both out of banks and independent consultants/buy side research. I was curious if anyone has come across Energy Aspects' work and/or has experience working at the company? Any further thoughts on best in...
Risk Per Trade in Macro Investing
I have read a few books (and online resources) on macro investing but I still don't have a good grasp on the concept of risk per trade. Could you help me understanding it please? (below are a few thoughts I have on this). I find the consensus advice from the legends and pros is that that traders...
Physical Energy Trading And Logistics
Most commodity markets tend to be driven by a few basic factors which are freight on one side, price on the other side and qualities. Each commodity market has its own particularities. Most of what I will generally talk about applies to oil and the liquids in particular which is a little bit...
Interviewing for Trading Support: Need Advice!
Hi everyone, I am currently a 1st year analyst working at a very niche commodities research shop with limited to zero growth prospects ahead career-wise given how small and lean my shop runs. Recently, I've acquired the opportunity to interview for a commodities role at a large investment bank....
Physical commodity trading in Europe
Hi everyone, i'm new and it's 3:20am in a beautiful city in Italy. Please keep all errors. They are welcome gifts from my part. I have some questions regarding physical commodity trading in Europe, especially in Italy & Germany, since these are the two countries for which I possess the necessary...
Top mining company vs. oil and gas consulting
Hey guys, Needed some help in making a decision. I primarily come from an oil gas background, but have been in management consulting for a year. Having been there for a year, I'm looking to move and have two options. 1) Major mining firm (think Rio Tinto, BHP etc) in their commercial strategy dept...
Getting a banking job is now an “arms race” - Ex Asiapac head of commodities at Citi.
Getting a banking job is now an “arms race”, says ex-Citi Singapore MD “Some say a banking career is a marathon; I say it’s much better to think of it as a series of sprints,” says Jason Tudor, a former Asia Pacific head of commodities at Citi. “I’ve been most fulfilled in jobs when...
I did it ma! Hired at a Physical Commodity Merchant. Hyped.
2 years ago I read The King of Oil, as suggested by a WSO thread. From that day on, I told myself "I'm gonna f*cking do that." Fast forward to now. I'm a college senior and in June I start my career as a Trainee in the Oil Division of a Physical Commodity Merchant. It's like playing for the Yankees....
Mercuria Energy Trading Inc.
Peaking inside one of the five largest independent energy and commodity groups in the world. So who is exactly Mercuria ? Why they have become Texas’ premier crude marketer ? Dunand and Jaeggi first met studying economics at the University of Geneva in the late *1970s. Their friendship was...
Question for you finance monkeys - Getting commodity info from financial statements?
hey all, is there a way to get a feel for a company's volume of natural gas consumed through their financial statements? taking Nucor for example, they're interesting because they had the EnCana agreement which they've just called off last week. As a steel company, they have a huge natural gas...
Sales & Trading - Commodities profile tags
I think I may have mentioned this before... but I think it would be awesome if there was a commodities designation under the Sales & Trading profile tag. Currently guys like myself and @EnergyHOU" are forced to put "other." Not a big deal but with the growing popularity of physicals and some banks...
Best Backteseting Platform
I have been playing around with some statistical arbitrage strategies, but have had some difficulty backtesting them. I have used Quantopian which appears to be my favorite so far, but I have also tried to use Oanda with a forex platform built in python with little success. What are some of your...
Insights wanted: LME metals Futures and Options trading
Hi all, I've just accepted an offer to start working as a junior LME metals futures and options trader. I've got some experience within S&T at bank through a summer internship and know a fair amount about futures/option. However, I was hoping for any insights into what it is like trading LME metals...
Commodities Desks at Banks
I know trading houses have been buying up commodities businesses from banks over the last few years, and I was wondering which banks still have dedicated commodities desk. More specifically, I am interested in hearing which banks still have physical trading operations, versus purely financial...
Structured Commodity Finance Investment Banking
Mainly metals and softs, some O&G; typically in emerging markets. How is this space regarded? What exit opportunities are there (adjacent IB product/coverage groups, structured credit/commodity HFs , Physical Commodity Traders) in the U.S.?
Gold bugs squashed by aggressive selling
Bullion sinks to five-year low on concerted wave of selling... 'curious what you guys think of this.. looks like the fall was mainly during the asian trading hours. Is this china's way of trying to assuage fears of impending stock market losses? If this is an unnatural fall, do you think the prices...
Commodities news sources
Hey, Could anybody recommend some good news sources for commodities, particularly soft/agri commodities. It could be anything in terms of websites, journals, podcasts. Thanks.
Software developer supporting credit traders at JP Morgan or commodities traders at Wells Fargo?
Is it better to work as a software developer supporting the credit derivatives trading desk at JP Morgan or supporting the commodities trading desk at Wells Fargo ? Assuming both jobs offer equal compensation, which would provide a better career path in the long run, for a technologist who has an...
Trading Weather and Making it Rain
If you could trade weather and make money, would you do it? Or better yet, even think that it is possible? You could add this as something being bizarre and Ripley may add it to his bizarre collection. Believe it or not, it is possible to trade weather. More specifically, weather is traded as a...
Modelling a commodities business--best practices?
Wondering if anyone has any tips of building an operating model used for valuation for a commodities business. Some background info on the company: top 5 producer/processor/distributor of poultry, "mature" company with strong market share in the space that it operates in. Like with any commodities...
Citi Commodities
Anyone have any info on Citi commodities? They do OCR at my school and a lot of people I know have accepted offers from their commodity S&T desk in Houston. What is their reputation? Is their commodity desk a dying business like at most other firms? Or are they one of the few strong players left...
Commodity Sales vs Commodity Trading at BB
Hi Guys, I've been reading around a bunch about this question but can't find a clear awnser on this one. I've heard Commodity sales in BB is slightly diff from say FX sales in that you'll do a broader range of activities and often work together with the IBD ? How does this then relate to commodity...
Private Counterparties
Over the course of my internship I've had the opportunity to interface with folks from our credit risk group and chatted with them about how we determine the creditworthiness of our counterparties - and unsurprisingly a lot of it revolves around analyzing their publicly available financial...
Physical/Paper commodity trading or S&T/research at a BB
Hey everyone. Just wondering if I could get some advice on the best route to getting from a target university to a top trading house in Europe? Without significant direct experience in the industry would a masters in Commodity Trading at the Universiy of Geneva be best? Cheers!
Ocean Freight Logistics > > Physical Commodities Supply
Hello monkeys, A long time lurker and first time poster here. I was hoping to get some opinions and advice from the community between two entry level opportunities my way: - BB Ops (no client interaction, typical ops stuff) -An international freight forwarder/NVOCC - Ocean Export Logistics...
WSO Really Needs a Commodities S&T Tag
WSO should consider adding commodities to the S&T dropdown list of options for the S&T badge displayed on profiles. would be much preferred and 'cooler' than the current 'other' tag. Just a thought.
Commodity Recruiters
Monkeys, thought I'd throw this one out to the pen. I am in the physical commodities trade currently and have been getting the itch for a new post. Ironically, a few buy-side funds and international commodity recruiters have reached out to contact me in the last couple weeks and I have taken a...
Physical Trading: Crude vs LPG
For the pros out there. What is your take on crude marketing / trading vs LPG marketing / trading? What would you say is the future of both and which one has more growth potential. What is the relative attractiveness and is one more lucrative than the next (and if so, is the gap expected to...
OTC Commodities Contracts
I'm beginning my internship on a physical gas desk in Houston at a super-major firm on Monday so naturally I've been reading up on the business as much as my final exam schedule allows and a question came to mind: Does a market for options on specific physical commodities exist? I know that you can...
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