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I just received my rejection from Big D and the third and final MBB. I'm just numb. So far I've been rejected by OW, MBB, D, and LEK. I graduated from my undergrad with a pre-med-esque degree last year and decided I did not want to become a doctor and fell in love with consulting. I have a pretty decent GPA (3.5-3.6) from a good STEM school and really good leadership/extracurriculars + prestigious scholarships and am attending a top MSF/MiM program on the East Coast for the sole reason of gunning for MBB/top consulting firms. I did everything I could. Applied and got into one of the best

13 Oct 2021

Hi everyone, I am a current Junior (international student) at a low/semi-target T10 university majoring in CS. I am debating between an SWE internship at a Big-N company (but not FAANG) and a more business-oriented internship at an F500 company next Summer. It'll be my last internship before graduation. For some background information, I've always wanted to become a management consultant but didn't start pursuing the path until this past month thinking it was impossible because I go to a non-target school. I am planning to go all-in (networking/ case prep) next Fall to get a full-time job at

09 Nov 2021

This year MBB is doing a summer round and a fall round deadline for full-time positions for undergrads in the US. I noticed that there is a thread for the summer analysts but not one for full-time. I personally applied for the summer round, because I want to maximize my options before I commit to my full-time (not in consulting) by the end of August. I am sure many of us who applied for the summer deadline are also in the same boat. SO I made this thread and hope to share updates/information. Has anyone heard back from any of the MBB? (like pymetrics, PSG, interview invitations, etc.) Feel

20 Jul 2021

While the odds are this post is relegated to the WSO trash heap-to grace the eyes neither of monkey nor MD-on the off chance my story could be helpful to someone in a similar position as I was a year ago, I wanted to share. The moral of the story: if you're better at math than schmoozing or stuck at a non-target school due to finances save yourself years of pain and self-loathing and GO INTO TECH! After discovering WSO during my junior year at my T30 semi-target UG, I spent most of my waking moments of the following year in pursuit of an analyst slot at an MBB/T2 firm. I became obsessed. My

18 Apr 2021

Hi there, Kind of enjoy doing AMA's (see one from 3 years ago before I started here if you are interested more in recruiting advice specifically: https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/qa-recent-…) and have some free time at the moment so figured I'd open it up. For context - been at a large MBB office out of a target school for the last 3 years, including a promotion from A/AC/BA to post-MBA role. Have done about a dozen projects across a range of topics, and happy to answer just about anything (including any new questions you have on recruiting that I didn't

25 Oct 2021

Hey everyone! I've recently accepted an ACI offer with Bain in one of their main offices (non-NY). I absolutely love Bain, the people, and the office as well. However, I would like to end up in NY sooner rather than later to start my career. How feasible is it to transfer to NY within Bain after my ACI experience? Otherwise, for optionality, how do McKinsey/BCG view applications from a Bain ACI? Does this increase chances of an interview or hurt them? All help is greatly appreciated!

04 Sep 2021

Open to answering questions regarding MBB, recruiting, breaking in, day to day life, career choices, etc. Background Academic: MSc in Finance (Europe) - top GPA, public undergrad b-school (target locally) Internships: Summer analyst at MBB; Summer analyst at Goldman Sachs (IMD London); Off-cycle analyst at European Private Equity FOFs. Received full-time offers from all three Other: GMAT 730 WSO Mentor Want to work with me? Check out my profile here.

05 Nov 2020

Hello, I'm a junior with two internship offers: 1) Business Analyst Intern at Capital One (McClean HQ) 2) Simon-Kucher and Partners Summer Consulting Associate (Chicago Office) Ideally, I'll be looking to leverage whatever role I choose in order to gain access to FT roles at MBB or a Tier 2 firm this time next year and eventually for MBA programs in a few years. I currently have a 3.7 GDP in Economics at a top 25 school; looking solely at the impact of these two different internships in terms of their exit opportunities and resume value. Essentially a less relevant role at a Forbes 100 firm vs

06 Nov 2021

Working in technology consulting at a big 4 company. Not implementation, mainly DD for PE clients. I've gotten an offer from a Tier 2 (ATK, OC&C, LEK etc.). I might also apply to MBB as I feel like I've got a reasonable chance to get it. For quite a while I've been focused on getting into a REAL strategy position. But I'm having doubts if it makes sense in the long term. I'm not convinced I want to go to a buy-side, so probably a decent exit would be to industry, which leaves roles like IT manager/director or roles in corporate strategy. And in such case I'm not convinced MBB/Tier 2's career

19 Aug 2021

Hi all, This forum has been a constant source of great information, so I'd like to give back with my first Q&A as I wrap up with MBB and prepare for the next role.

05 Jan 2021

So according to my research, PwC's strategy arm i.e. Strategy& does not operate in Canada, neither does Monitor Deloitte (just Deloitte) nor EY-P (just EY). So are strategy consulting positions even available in Canada? I will be applying for internships soon and was wondering if these strategy arms are integrated in Canada or operate in a different manner. So if I want to apply for a strategy management internship at EY or PwC for example, will I simply apply to EY and PwC and will they have explicit internship openings for strategy consulting? Or does Canada have a different structure

06 Jun 2021

Hi - hope everyone is well. Had a quick question regarding MBB (and other top consulting firms) recruiting... Would a first at LSE in a behavioral science degree look better than a 3.8+ GPA at McGill university (for pure economics) in Canada? I know LSE is seen as more of a "target" school - but does the course have any bearing on this ? And is there really a large difference between LSE and McGill (for MBB recruitment purposes) Thanks !!

13 Jun 2021

Hello! I recently got into both schools, and feel incredibly lucky to have this dilemma before me, but alas. Any input on either school's consulting experience would be greatly appreciated. I guess the first thing I want to ask is if there are any significant differences in placement for either school? I dunno, but the small class sizes and business degree from Cornell seem more interesting to study than hard econ. Consulting is what I want to do right now, but a second question would be which school would be better for keeping my options open as far as the world of business is concerned. What

07 Apr 2021

Banking: - You're gonna learn an insane amount about not just financial modeling but also how companies are structured inside-and-out. Bankers are basically real estate agents for companies and just like how real estate agents know everything about a house they sell, bankers become extremely well-informed about the companies and industries in which they operate. - Better pay: nothing else to say here, just the truth - More hours: Sure it sucks to work more, but, guess what? You're young, you have the energy to work. Learn as much as you can now, cash out on your knowledge from banking to find

06 Oct 2020

The biggest draw for me as far as going to Dyson was being in small classes and having a more intimate relationship with my professors and peers. Also, the fact that I'd be studying business as opposed to studying econ is a plus. As of now, I'd like to work in MBB out of college and eventually work in strategy on the west coast. I know that Northwestern is a powerhouse for MBB, and I definitely like the location more than Dyson, but is Dyson really that much worse than Northwestern? Will my prospects be slim for MBB out of Dyson?

25 Apr 2021

Hey all, First post on here so I hope I'm doing this right. I'm a rising senior interning at a Big 4 right now on their transaction real estate team, and although I love the people I'm not sure the company culture fits my personality well. I'm going to be doing some MBB / banking full time recruiting, and eventually want to transition into REPE. I'm graduating May 2022 from a well-respected real estate program with a data science certificate so I have a pretty robust technical skillset. Would love to hear people's thoughts on top REPE firms in NYC and where it makes sense for me to recruit if

11 Jul 2021

Open to questions of any nature from students, consultants, or anyone else. I am an incoming first-year associate at a tech-focused PE fund, currently rounding out my 2nd year at MBB. I attended a top target (H/Y/P/S/W) for undergrad and interned on the buy-side in undergrad. I can try to help by explaining any part of the process, including what seems to be a trickier jump from consulting to buy-side, or anything more specific that I can be helpful with. WSO Mentor Want to work with me? Check out my profile here.

03 Nov 2020

Currently stuck between the first 3 options in the title for Undergrad, but leaning towards UCLA. Any advice for which school would best set me up for a career in IB or consulting is appreciated! Also waitlisted at Cal Berkeley, Cornell, Northwestern, and Georgetown. Have around 10 days to decide on those I've been accepted to. UCLA Pros: International Brand Recognition Highly Ranked Great Student Life In the good part of LA Can intern in LA in the summers Decent Economics Program Decent but very large Alumni Network Diverse Student Body Decent Alumni Network between undergrad and Anderson If

21 Apr 2021

Hi, I just did a final around for Bain New York Office (Thursday 4/1/21). I graduated in May of 2020, but they are doing off cycle recruiting right now for AC positions. They are doing final round interviews today and tomorrow. I have two questions: 1. When should I hear back? Did anyone else also interview for this role and have you heard back? 2. Does your first round interview play into the decision to extend an offer? I killed my first round interviews but felt less confident on one of my final round interviews. Will they take all four interviews into account or only the last two? Thank

01 Apr 2021

Hi everyone, hope you are all doing well in this coronavirus season. Wanted to contribute to the community during this time with a Q&A. I imagine many of you consultants or college students are at home chilling, so thought this could be an interesting use of time. Open to answering all sorts of questions about life in MM PE, my time at MBB, transitioning from MBB to PE, college to MBB, etc. I hope this is a helpful discussion on this forum. For some brief background - target university, 2 years at MBB, and now towards the end of my first year as an associate at a MM PE firm in the US. Pretty

30 Apr 2020

Ive been thinking recently. Based on what I've read from this site or heard from others, Most people who join MBB/T2 end up staying there for 2-5 years, maybe getting an M7 MBA along the way. They sacrifice a lot in their 20's due to the work hours and stress of succeeding at a top school and their firms. But at the end of the day, unless they make partner, they usually end up at corporations side-by-side with people who took a more 'normal' or less prestigious route, going to a state school and working 9-5 throughout. If that's the case, then is all the effort (top undergrad --> 60 hrs/week

21 Jan 2021

I am in a very privileged position to have received a McKinsey offer for the associate position in NA. Previously, I had attended the Bain summer program for advanced degrees but unfortunately bombed the final case interview and did not receive an FT offer. The recruiting manager communicated that I was placed on a pseudo-waitlist and that they will reach out to me at the end of August or early September. Now I am in a bind. I know it is easy to just accept the McKinsey offer and never look back, but Bain has always been my top choice and I really felt at home with all the Bainies during my

22 Aug 2020

Hello, just wanted to share that I have not heard from a T2 firm after my Final Round. Had 2 interviews with partners and then was asked to do a third one with the most senior partner in the office; thought I did ok and senior partner, although in a very formal tone, said that I should be hearing from them shortyl and that I should "wait for next steps". It's been more than one week from the interviews and have not heard anything, I contacted the HR person a few days ago and was told that "no confirmation has been made, I will keep keep pressing and inform you". No idea what this all means

09 Nov 2021

I'm interning with an MBB in NJ, but I hope to be in DC long-term. (The decision to be in NJ was made because of the pandemic/uncertainty.) Once/if I receive a full-time offer, how can I start to make the move to DC? Should I stay quiet about where I want to be for a bit or start a conversation early? I know the popularity/demand of an office plays a heavy role in whether you're granted a permanent transfer or not, and I'm not sure how DC compares. I'd be willing to stay in NJ for up to 2 years post-grad, meaning I'd start to look for something else that would get me to DC - maybe apply to

09 Dec 2020

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07 Sep 2021

This is the age old question. Here is my quick take on it. Happy to answer any questions about my experience or anything on your mind. Here it is, Banking vs. Consulting, an overview. #### Skills/Training: Banking: A slightly narrower but more focused skill set: quantitative and modeling focused. By the end of it, you'll be an expert at valuation and typical models like M&A, LBO, and capital raises. Consulting: Broader skillset. By the end of it, you'll get very good at structuring an ambiguous business problem, identifying a path to solve it, figuring out data and information needed

25 Jun 2020

Hey Everyone I am a middle manager/exec at one of the infamous IT services firm. However, I have a pretty strong healthcare consulting experience spread across APAC countries, then moved to Product Management @USA (grew a successful product) and finally to business strategy. I am currently in the states and was applying to the M7 schools. However, at 33, at most got only waitlists. I recently got a great offer from LBS and considering pros and cons of moving to London. Pros - Immigration is easier in UK (I am an international). - LBS is a pretty strong brand in London at least. - Program is

16 May 2021

Hey, So I'm a bit late when it comes to researching for MBB. I'm currently a rising freshman attending a public ivy (with pretty good placement in MBB). This year scores for SAT and ACT were omitted for college apps, and I ended up not taking them. I've been researching management consulting a lot lately and I'm seeing everywhere how data points such as GPA, SAT, and GMAT are essential for MBB applicants and Big 4 applicants. What should be my course of action be if I haven't taken the SAT? Should I take it first semester freshman year in college (I know it is absurd but still)? Should I reach

17 Jun 2021

Hey guys, I go to a target (H/Y/P/S) undergrad and we had our final-round interviews for the AC role at Bain (NYC/ Boston/ SF) on Tuesday the 29th. I know MBB typically get back with news within 24h if it's good or longer if it's not-so-good but none of my friends have heard back yet. What should we expect the decision timeline to look like? Maybe we can use this space to keep a tab on when decisions start going out... Would really appreciate any insight on this for this year in particular (have read through previous posts)

01 Oct 2020

I don't want to be in consulting or ib for more than 2 years, just wanna learn about biopharma space and get into biotech vc. I'm between 2 offers for full-time right now: Evercore in Life Sciences banking division (Menlo Park) or Mckinsey SF is generalist. Pros of Evercore: I'll be only on biotech deals and can learn much more about the field and how to think strategically about business from a finance perspective + more pay Cons of Evercore: Not as well known, so may not add that stamp to my resume that Mck would Pros of Mckinsey: Good to have on resume, will add that stamp to have my resume

25 Sep 2020

I've been lucky enough to land two consulting internships (after junior year of college) - one from Deloitte, and another from Strategy& (PwC). I'm wondering which one I should take. Here's what I'm thinking so far, where a "*" indicates that these are the most important factors I'm taking into consideration: Just to emphasize, name-brand is really important to me, as is the possibility of transitioning into MBB for the following summer - Deloitte (currently leaning towards this choice): *please correct me if I'm wrong, but the name brand here is better I think (at least according to Vault)

14 Nov 2020

Applying for FT MBB in a month and having a networking call with a Senior Partner at one of the MBBs in London (30 mins) in a few days, any ideas what to ask to make a good impression? We connected over them being a leader of one of the diversity groups so will definitely touch this topic but would welcome any suggestions. Thanks!

21 Sep 2021

This is my take, and I've included some basic commentary about why I've listed certain firms in certain places. I'm definitely interested in hearing what people think, but before I give the list I offer two disclaimers: 1. This is what I think the landscape CURRENTLY looks like. 5 or 10 years ago I would've had some of these firms in very different places on the list (and excluded some of them entirely) 2. This is based on prestige for the US market. Things are of likely different in Europe or elsewhere Anyway here we go. Tier 1: 1. Mckinsey 2. BCG 3. Bain This is simply indisputable Tier

17 Feb 2018

Five years almost to the date, I was fired from Oliver Wyman (after 11 months at the firm, straight out of ugrad). This is when I'd walked into the year-end review genuinely thinking I'd be told I was promoted. There are a few words one never forgets, and the sentence that'll stick with me forever was "based on a few factors, but primarily your performance, we are moving on". No "sorry to say, but...", even. I was shown a few spreadsheets showing how I did vs my peer group. I scored poorly across 8 of the 14 metrics, and was average in all others. Out of the 8 metrics in which I scored poorly

03 Jan 2017

Hi friends. Recently left MBB after spending 2 years after college there. Always thought it was helpful reading Q&A when I was a student thinking about career-pathing, so wanted to offer this up. Busy in a new job, so will respond when available and might close this thread up early, but for now, please ask away. For context: Target college MBB big US office Based in the US Obviously please keep questions professional and I will try to provide as much insight as possible. Won't reveal anything though that is too personal. Still care about anonymity.

19 Sep 2019

Hi! I'll be brief and please feel free to redirect me to the appropriate place if this is the wrong place. I have an offer at Firm #1. I have a final-round interview with Firm #2 on Friday. Firm #1 wants an answer BEFORE Friday, conveniently. Firm #1 does not know I'm applying to Firm #2. If I get Firm #2, I would likely take that offer (location). Both are MBB. The way I see it, below are my options. Please advise, any help at ALL is appreciated. Take Firm #1 offer and withdraw from Firm #2. Withdraw from Firm #1 and hope Firm #2 works out. Take Firm #1, renege if Firm #2 works out. Renege

16 Dec 2020

Hello everyone, I'm currently a third year Italian undergraduate student at Bocconi University, interested in starting my professional path in London IB but that would also be interested in Consulting (most likely in Italy) I'm considering several choices for my masters, and I'm not excluding MiMs from top schools. I was wondering what do you guys consider to be the most attractive alternative and the one providing more optionality with regards to picking IB and MC. I also want to understand if a one-year program is worth the price, given that i have some professional experience (in a PE fund

14 Mar 2020

Which is more prestigious: McKinsey or Goldman Sachs? McKinsey Pros: McKinsey McKinsey Cons: Not Goldman Sachs Goldman Sachs Pros: Goldman Sachs Goldman Sachs Cons: Not McKinsey If anyone could provide insight, that'd be awesome!

17 Dec 2020

I don't want to be in consulting or ib for more than 2 years, just wanna learn about biopharma space and get into biotech vc. I'm between 2 offers for full-time right now: Evercore in Life Sciences banking division (Menlo Park) or Mckinsey SF is generalist. Pros of Evercore: I'll be only on biotech deals and can learn much more about the field and how to think strategically about business from a finance perspective + more pay Cons of Evercore: Not as well known, so may not add that stamp to my resume that Mck would Pros of Mckinsey: Good to have on resume, will add that stamp to have my resume

26 Sep 2020

Starting school this Fall, background is in ER. Dream career is working at a value oriented HF or traditional asset manager. Not as interested in the multi-manager platforms since I wouldn't have pursued an MBA. Beyond even obtaining a role post-MBA , there is the concern of being irrelevant as a fundamental equity analyst in 15+ years. The industry is obviously changing, and tbh does the world really need another person determining the right P/E multiple for Target? All that said, I enjoy the investment process and the job's lifestyle compared to other roles. I see it more as a craft that I

17 Jan 2020

Hey guys! Recently accepted offer to join Bain and was wondering what typical salary is at entry (matching BCG/considering recent pay bumps to take hold in October), and at age 30 & 35. I understand progression looks differently for every person, so an estimation works.

04 Sep 2021

I'm a junior at an east coast target school (3.8 GPA, think Princeton/Columbia/Penn) but am looking at offices on the west coast (have just always wanted to try living in the west coast)! I know my school is a target for east coast offices like NY - but I'm struggling to see alumni from my school at some of the MBB LA offices that I could potentially network with/talk to. Is this going to negatively impact my chances of being accepted/at least called back for a first interview? Do LA offices prefer to recruit from schools like UCB and Stanford as opposed to Ivies? Any advice? Thanks so much :)

22 Aug 2020

What's the move now? I could easily slack off (by slacking off I mean only focus on "current work" rather than the "next step") but that does not seem wise. The thing is, I don't even know what the next steps are. For instance, in IB, it's IB -> PE (a generalization, but a valid one I believe). What's the move for MBB? (I know that MBB leads to a greater variety of paths - but knowing that and sitting on my butt does not really help to get somewhere). So, what's the "move" once you're a 1Y full-time?

14 Aug 2021

I looked at some employment reports of top 15 bschools during 2012-2017 and this seems to be the trend. For example, Columbia, a finance powerhouse, had 55 graduates heading over to McKinsey in 2017, while that figure for Goldman Sachs was only 8! The top 5 recruiters in 2017 were McKinsey, BCG, Bain, Amazon, and Deloitte. In fact, across top 15 bschools, the percentage of MBAs who went to IB in 2017 is only 5-10%; for consulting it is 20-30%. Now, I understand that: 1. Maybe half or more of those heading to MBB had their MBA sponsored -> they were just coming back 2. BB IBs get most of their

16 Sep 2018

Conventional wisdom here would suggest that you need to go to a M7/T10 school to give yourself a decent chance of making it to MBB, You can make it from a T15 school, but the chances are lower. However, I've noticed on LinkedIn that people from UW Foster (USNR #27) & UM Twin Cities (USNR #32) do make it to MBB (I'm not talking about sponsored MBB kids, but career switchers). Although it seems like they're always in the Seattle or Minneapolis offices. I'm not talking about 1 or 2. These schools seems to send a few grads to MBB every year. I know those are not Kellogg numbers, but what does that

15 Nov 2017

Applications for full-time analyst positions at the following firms are now open unless otherwise stated. Get after it, monkeys! See you on the Street ;) Front-office IBD, S&T and/or Research Deutsche Bank Evercore (superday scheduled for 8/8) Lazard Lazard Middle Market Wells Fargo (Application was available 7/23. Appears to have been temporarily delisted) Perella Weinberg Partners (Applications under review as of August 5) Lincoln International (Application always available. Deadline unknown) Goldman Sachs (Applications closed 7/27) Royal Bank of Scotland (RBS) (Application available 8/15-10

05 Sep 2014

It's summer time and many of you out there are likely in your first internship with a consulting firm. Here are 5 things I found to be helpful in converting my internship into a full-time offer: #### Demonstrating core attributes / skills: 1. Coachability: you don't have to know everything day one, it's definitely not the expectation. However, I think it is important to show that you're coachable and are willing to receive feedback and learn / grow from it. Consulting is generally an apprenticeship model where you learn from coaching and guidance you receive from your teammates and team

25 Jun 2020

Just wanted to start this forum topic since I know a few of us are feeling antsy about Bain final round decisions. I would be interested in hearing about your ACI final round calls and the turnaround time to receiving an acceptance or rejection. Please post if you have or have not received an acceptance, and for which region of the US! Also let us know how your overall interview went from your perspective, and how well that matched the outcome. Thank you!

10 Oct 2020

Elon Musk, the richest man on the planet and Donald Trump, the president, both were Wharton undergraduates. There has to be some significance here...how can it be possible that one school graduated two of the most powerful people on the planet??

10 Jan 2021

I'm interested in what people think the best training is for starting a search fund. I know that this is becoming a more popular career option for people out of business school. For graduating undergrads who plan on going to business school 3-5 years down the road, what do you guys think would be the best gig out of college if you intend to start a search fund after business school. I feel like the main options that people with this goal would consider are: * MBB consulting(you get to learn how many different types of management decisions are made, given coaching on "strategy", get exposure to

18 Apr 2020