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Deployed military w/ MSc Finance to Trading - Undergrad at Penn State with a 3.7
Good evening all, I am currently deployed to Iraq. When I return I am planning on getting out and giving a go at trading. I have posted here before but I was hoping to get some more substantial feedback than my last attempt. I have served for four years, but already have my MSc in Finance (no not...
trader vs. quant trader, which role makes more money?
Nowadays banks have several types of traders, the traditional traders, and the quant traders, does anybody know which side makes more money? My understanding is that the quant traders are often in the prop- trading positions, and doing some sort of statistical modeling and predictions, backtesting...
Best Swaps Desks
What banks on the street are known as having a strong swaps desk?
Daily Crude Oil Price Table YTD
Does anyone know where I can find a concise table of crude oil daily prices for the last year (Aug 2008- Aug 2009)? I have searched all over and have only found charts or tables from before 2007. I'm looking for a table of prices I can easily input into excel. Any help would be really appreciated....
IB's trading ranking?
Hi all, What's the newest ranking of the IBs in terms of prestige? I am guessing it's going to be: GS MS JPM CS CITI DB UBS Barclays ... Am I right? Let's make a list... How about ranking of IBs in terms of prestige in trading ? I guess that's: GS CS DB UBS ... Am I right? How about the ranking of...
Heard of these high-frequency trading firms?
Has anyone heard of: Sun Trading Knight Capital Bracebridge Capital EWT Hudson River Trading IMC Chicago? What do you think about these firms in terms of pay, prestige etc? Also what do you guys think about electronic trading as a career choice? I would appreciate any helpful insights.
Front-End Interest Rates Contract
Hi, I'm very new to trading and want some clarification here. I saw an interview of a HF managers (couple years old) where he talks about being long front-end interest rates contracts. Can anyone explain in simple terms what that means? I'm assuming front end means short-term, like 1 or 2 years. Is...
Direct go to hedgefund or start career at IB prop trading position?
Hi all, I got a prop trading position at a second tier bank doing Quant trading of FX. In my understanding, the prop trading side in a bank runs like a hedgefund. Then I began to think to myself: why don't I directly go to a hedgefund, instead of wasting my time at a bank doing prop trading? Any...
Best way to get into quant HF from undergrad?
Hey everyone, I am a senior finishing up my undergrad at a target school and I would like to a find a job where I can develop and trade my own quantitative based strategies, preferably at a hedge fund. I have experience developing and backtesting strategies that actually work and show solid returns...
Trading 101 - Technicals to determine good entry points
To some this might sound like dumb questions but I'm interested in learning a bit of what trading is all about. I've always been so focused on investment banking that I've never paid trading much mind until now. If anyone has any information to give about the following, I'd greatly appreciate it. 1....
Payrolls Number
Any one else think we've got a decent shot of payrolls coming in a few hundred k to the downside? I feel like its going to happen soon, either this month or next if I am right... Those adjustments and mods in other reports are basically bs and the markets will get crushed. Thoughts?
Legit Night/Weekend MFE Programs
I know that there's going to be a few jokes about University of Phoenix programs (feel free to fire them off), but serious question: I know that London Business School has a weekend MFE program: http://www.london.edu/programmes/mif/july.html?id…. Does anyone know of a similar program in the...
Anybody know about these firms?
As far as I can tell from the previous posts, Jane Street and Optiver seem to be the most respected prop- trading firms . What do you guys think about Wolverine Trading , Hudson River Trading and Tower Research Capital ? Also does anyone know anything about Dean Ventures and MDT Advisors, since they...
Quasi-job offer but nervous about sending transcript...
I interned in ECM last year as a rising sophomore and was invited back this year. I'm about to finish my internship and my group head took me out for lunch last week to say he thought that I've done a great job (notwithstanding my screwing up badly my third day) and that he thought I'd have a future...
Lev Fin vs. Trading
Could anyone with relevant knowledge of lev fin and trading send me a message to discuss my situation? Particularly a decision of internship for next summer at a particular firm. Thanks, KZow
Jr. High Frequency Trading Role (1425+ SAT required)
My firm is actively seeking to network with highly talented, recent college graduates whom are seeking to pursue a career in High Frequency, Quantitative Trading. We have a number of excellent opportunities based in Chicago, New York, Dublin, and CT. If you feel that you have the gumption and...
New and curious
So basically, I'm a rising second year at a target, and I'm very curious about a career in sales and trading . I'm thinking of majoring in a physical science, most likely physics, and focusing on my quantitative skills to get myself ready for a career in finance. I'm posting here to request any...
Racing Towards Excellence by Muzaffar Khan and Jan Sramek
Quick background on the authors Muzaffar Khan Muzaffar Khan, worked for Citi, BarCap, Moore Capital, and was a Consultant for Man Eco (subsidiary of Man Group). Jan Sramek Somewhat of a prodigy in the UK.
Which Products Place Less Emphasis on CS/Programming?
Which products typically require less computer science or programming knowledge? I am aware of the fact that trading is becoming increasingly electronic and most products will have quantitative/system/program trading specialist firms and traders, but I am curious which products are more macro and...
Sales and Trading VS. Capital Markets
I've been doing a lot of research online and on the boards, but I can't seem to figure out the difference between S&T and working in the Capital Markets department of a firm. I know you work on trading desks for both.Can someone please explain the difference? Capital Markets Group Please see below...
do any of you guys hate trading?
For the traders/ex-traders, what do/did you dislike about the job? Do traders ever get burned out, and if so, why?
The Psychology of Trading
I am starting to read Trading in The Zone by Mark Douglas. I read it last summer during my SA stint and was not trading. Was just curious if anyone else had read it or is interested. The book is about the factors that influence traders and differentiate good traders and bad traders and why the best...
Good Computer Programs to Know?
For someone who is really interested in HF work, particularly on the credit side, what are good programming languages to know? I've been building up on VBA to improve my Excel skills, and a friend has recommended learning Python, but I wanted to hear thoughts from other people. And out of curiosity,...
correlation trading
hi, i'm just wondering, what do traders actually do on a correlation trading desk ? how do they trade correlation? what is the correlation between? who are the clients? etc.
Ugly Americans by Ben Mezrich
I started reading Ugly Americans by Ben Mezrich again this weekend. Have read it probably twice before. Just wondering if anyone else had read it and their thoughts into it. Its a story about a Princeton grad that goes to work for Kidder Peabody in Japan doing primarily index arb in the Mid 90s and...
A couple of recruiting questions
Hi everyone, As a math/Econ/ CS major, I am hoping to apply to consulting(versatility), VC(interest) and quant trading (educational background) jobs for the reasons mentioned inside parantheses. However, my prior internships, as well as the current one are in corp fin / PE type of jobs. Thus, I was...
Sharing ideas and strategies
hey everyone - wanted to share with you a new site I started: ww.ratemychart.com. The main purpose of Rate my Chart is for professional traders and research analysts to share and discuss strategies, analysis and ideas. check us out and maybe submit a chart or two. Think yours will make the Top 20?
Rate my Chart
Hey everyone - I just started a new site and was hoping to get some input from the folks on this site. If you don't mind, check it out and let me know what you think. www.ratemychart.com While you are there submit a chart or two and come back in a few days to see if you make it on the Top 20!...
Best Prop Shop Training for Traders
Hey guys, I wanted to get some input on training at prop shops. Has anyone heard of any firms offering great training and not impossible to get into. Let me get your thoughts. Thanks in advance.
The Real Nero Tulip (from Taleb)
Rereading 'Fooled by Randomness' by Nassim Taleb and wondering where the story of Nero Tulip actually comes from? And what firms did he work for in Chicago / NYC? If you haven't read the book, you should, but until then you can read below and help w/ any insights. I've Googled around and haven't...
FX Trading Summer Intern
I'm fairly familiar with the equity markets, but what exactly should I brush up on for a summer FX trading position? Does anyone have any useful links I can check out? It doesn't have to be very in-depth, but I would just like to be familiar with the basics/fundamentals of currency trading before I...
Which Internship should I choose? Private Equity or S&T or NEITHER?
I currently have 3 outstanding offers for fall internship. 1 of them is at a private equity/ venture capital fund about 10B AUM 2 of them are S&T GCM positions at famous firms.. First, by accepting any of these internships I will miss full-time recruitment cycle as u all know. Second, my dream is go...
Doing alternative internships
Will doing a trading (prop shop for instance) or consulting internship after sophomore year/junior year screw you for IB FT or SA recruitment? Seems like a dumb question, but I'm still trying to research in depth to see which I would like to "aim" for, and I'm wondering if it would be detrimental if...
We need discussions like THIS
I would eventually like to see WSO having deep conversations such as this post today on the market action the final hour of trading instead of the "rank the banks" "what are my chances" crap I have to read. Lets talk about the market god damnit! http://zerohedge.blogspot.com/2009/06/intraday-sp…...
Best Blackberry App for Quotes/Charts
I'm looking for an application for my Blackberry Curve 8830 that gives real-time quotes and charts for stocks in all the major exchanges across the world, commodities, currencies, and options. Anyone know of such an application? If not, what would you suggest I get as a trader looking to get real...
What does GS Volatility Trading do?
It was brought to my attention that GS has a dedicated Volatility Trading desk. Sounds very interesting to me but I have to admit that I don't know anything about it. If you're familiar with this desk, please help me by answering the following questions. 1. Is it a prop or a client-driven desk? 2....
What to study ?
Hi ! Next year, I'll start two masters in quantitative finance and statistics. I already had courses on stochastic finance but I don't really know the market floor jobs so I'm wondering about what to study. I want to work as a trader or a structurer on commodities and weather derivatives. - What...
What to do with my life? - College senior at a large university in the Southeastern Conference
I'm going to be a college senior this year at a large university in the Southeastern Conference. The school itself is average, however we have a top 20 Accounting program in which I am currently enrolled. I'll graduate with only about a 3.4, as I did poorly my first year of college and have been...
What is trading to you?
I had an interview last fall and this was one of the questions I got. I completely bombed it but I'm just curious what you guys would answer with. I'll post later with what he was looking for.
Interest Rate Options
What is the simplest way to trade interest rate options (short-term rates) using a personal trading account? Is this even possible?
What's going on?
Hi guys, I accepted summer analyst position in tech in a BB 's S&T division. I recently asked the person who would be in charge of me how I could prepare for the job. I was told to pick up an intro to fixed income book, a couple books about trading risks calculation and a couple books about...
Comparing Trillium Trading to Goldman PWM
For someone really interested in the markets but also planning to go to a very solid (top 5) MBA program, which option would be better? I understand in terms of pay ($60K salary + 10K sign -on + $5-10K bonus) and stability (2-year contract) the Goldman Private Wealth Management is clearly the better...
Average first-year comp. at reputable prop. shops?
I wanted to know what the average first year compensation is at a reputable (salary paying) proprietary trading shop. I realize it might be tough to get an average since people can make $250K +, $40K, or absolutely nothing since you fully control your compensation and there no buckets like at the...
Very Emergent help needed make a market?!
Hi There is one question that always puzzles me What would you say if you are asked to make a market with underlying asset of escalator steps? what does this question mean exactly?
Lateraling from top prop. shops to BB S&T and Hedge Funds
I wanted to see how common it is for people to lateral from top prop. shops (DRW/ Susquehanna /Trillium/FNYS etc.) to the sales and trading divisions of Bulge Bracket banks and to hedge funds. I'm sure if you are successful at one of the respected prop. shops mentioned above the banks will certainly...
Offer on the table - Need advice ASAP
I was fortunate to receive an offer from a top prop. shop (Trillium/Susquehanna/First New York) today. I am also interviewing with a Commodity Trading Advisor (CTA) which is basically set up as a hedge fund (2 and 20 structure) for a night trading position. The CTA position would be trading futures...
trading internship prep?
Hey guys, There seems to be a lot of information on how to prepare for an i banking internship, but what's the best way to prepare for an internship in trading ? Specific skills to brush up on? Reading? Thanks
central bank experience vs. grad school
Will Central Bank research experience help getting into Ivy League Graduate schools? My concern is the central bank experience will send me in direction of master of economics. However, my goal is to do a master of finance or financial engineering and get into S&T (preferably trading ) at BB upon...
Best graduate schools for sales & trading
I go to a non-target school (junior) and am considering going into a masters of finance program right after graduation. I had S & T interviews at 4 BBs and didn't get a SA offer and really want to be in Sales & Trading. I will also have the CFA level 1 & II out of the way before I enter the masters...
Compensation in Trading
I would appreciate your advice on compensation in trading . Currently I am doing an MBA . This summer I will do an internship at a BB bank in their Markets division. Since it will be a rotational program, I will have the chance to work on several desks. Within trading I do not yet have a clear...
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