CS vs BoA
How do the two stack up for Investment Banking? I am trying to decide for next summer. I am interested in sponsors and M&A. My main criteria:
1) exit opps
2) deal flow
3) culture/ overall experience
How do the two stack up for Investment Banking? I am trying to decide for next summer. I am interested in sponsors and M&A. My main criteria:
1) exit opps
2) deal flow
3) culture/ overall experience
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1) BofA
2) BofA
3) Really depends, some BofA teams are great, others not that much... Same applies to CS...
Thank you!
Clearly you work at BofA. You sir are fake news
Exit opps are similar at both. BofA has stronger deal flow now, CS still has the legacy strength of when it was arguably the number 3 bank on Wall Street. More group dependent: BofA sponsors / levfin / M&A / C&R and CS sponsors / M&A / TMT / industrials are all solid groups (sorted in rough descending order of exit opps). Dealflow is group dependent, leans BofA but CS is the #1 LevFin and PE bank on WS. CS and BofA are both known for overall better cultures than the average BB but again, group dependent. Sponsors in both are very difficult to get into. I think people might underrate CS for PE and overrate BofA for PE placement, but similar enough.
Thank you!
Would add CS sponsors is the single best group among the mid-tier BBs for exit ops probably
CS is absolutely not the #1 LevFin bank, what are you smoking?
Completely agree ^ nowhere near the top. The amount of misinformation that is both casually spread and casually accepted on this site is ridiculous.
BofA for Sponsors and M&A
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CS has stronger exit opps, take a look at linkedin and see the recent placements every year and it is even more impressive as CS has one of the smallest analyst classes of any BB so per capita it is even better than it looks.
Deal flow I would say BofA has been doing better recently but not such a big difference
Culture and experience is very group dependent at each bank
Congrats on having two great options. I think much of what has been said already is largely accurate – CS and BofA are two of the leading leveraged finance and private equity banks on Wall Street, and I would lean towards BofA LevFin or CS Sponsors if you can get either.
I am not as experienced as most on this site quite yet, but having recently faced a similar decision to yours, my best piece of advice is to seek out and extract as much wisdom from those around you who have more knowledge and experience. Reach out to directors, former analysts who've left for PE, or anyone else in the industry with years of experience under their belt. Be quick to listen and slow to speak. This helped me tremendously when I was deciding, and for what it's worth I ended up choosing one of the aforementioned groups at over an offer from a coverage group at a "top tier" BB because I am really interested in private equity and wanted a modeling-intensive experience with a lot of execution work, which both of those groups offer.
Best of luck with whichever you decide!
Thank you man I mean it. Mind telling me what bank you’re at and / or what your plans are for after banking?
Thank you man I mean it. Mind telling me what bank you’re at and / or what your plans are for after banking?
Pick BofA, unless you know you can get into CS Sponsors (alumni in the group) or if you really love the culture at CS.
Any FSG group will lead to great PE exits, but CS is definitely one of the best platforms
Here’s my $0.02. A lot of European banks have generally declined post 2008 and I think American banks have simply recovered better. That’s not to say that every group is bad, I know that CS, UBS, and DB all have some stellar groups. But, based on the very general information you gave us, if we can only compare the overall firms of each, then BofA is simply in a much better place than CS. I would of course, however, take CS Sponsors over a BofA O&G, but we have to keep it general based on your question.
What group are you in at BofA?
I’d take BofA. Better culture across the board and much much better future outlook. Just look at league tables over recent years (M&A specific to account for BofA’s balance sheet). Anecdotally have also heard that many MDs have been jumping ship at CS.
I’m going to get MS for this and people are going to think I work at BofA (which I don’t) but if you ask anyone who works in banking they’ll tell you BofA is indisputably the 4th best BB.
can anyone speak to the CS NYC office? i hear there is an onsite cafeteria, gym, newer offices etc..
also did TMT split into 2 groups recently? how has this affected each team
there's a shake shack 0.5 blocks away
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