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I would say with rising interest rates and a lot of focus on financial institutions in the next several years, FIG at JPM or GS would be interesting and highly sought after. Also deal making hit an all time high in 2Q15 so I cant imagine this will continue at this pace for the next several years.

Just my take though man.

 

Probably the ones next to any windows... or near the exit...

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seabird:

Probably the ones next to any windows... or near the exit...

HAHAHAHAH I laughed out in a library, fuck you :))))

"Every man should lose a battle in his youth, so he does not lose a war when he is old"
 

for GS, it is not TNT its TMT. All of goldman's other groups are pretty good too.

JPM is very good at energy/nat res

MS good at FIG and TMT as well.

CMG is largest at lehman; might not be the best. The two best are Nat Res and FIG in my opinion.

 
scotttwibell:
Top group at JPM is M&A and sponsors at CS. IF you care about exit opps., I'd try getting into M&A at UBS also instead of HC.

He's right. If you care about exit opps.

Because if you are not in these particular groups, you will certainly be unemployed for life after your 2 years an analyst. You're just worthless if you didn't work in JPM's M&A group...you're life is over.

 

i dont think JPM m&a is the best.... its all transaction execution, not much thought or deal pitching/strategizing. im sure its great but it isnt necc. the best the bank offers.

plus-WHO CARES

livin large in miami
 
glee:
i dont think JPM m&a is the best.... its all transaction execution, not much thought or deal pitching/strategizing. im sure its great but it isnt necc. the best the bank offers.

transaction execution is the best way to learn for a junior banker... you don't really learn from pitching until you become more senior.

analysts in coverage aren't exactly strategizing big picture with the Cxx's of the world -- they're spreading comps and doing business profiles

 

that isn't necessarily true. a lot of it is just more BS that you have to deal with. the hours aren't necessarily bad because its a top group, but because some of the top groups don't have the best culture for a lot of people...

 
jj80:
that isn't necessarily true. a lot of it is just more BS that you have to deal with. the hours aren't necessarily bad because its a top group, but because some of the top groups don't have the best culture for a lot of people...

agree; not necessarily true, but all things being equal if you work more hours usually it means there is more work to be done, which will result in you learning more.

 
iambateman:
is a big time sweat shop. 95+ hrs a week is standard from what people in the group have told me and all-nighters are common...the head of the group is insane and very demanding

with that said, UBS hc is the top HC group on the street

95+ a week is not a "big time sweatshop" in my opinion. 95 is about average for me. That being said, UBS has a great HC franchise. Not sure about how it's doing YTD, but in 2006 UBS HC was not #1 in M&A #deals or deal volume, they were #3, I believe.

 

For the original poster to think that media has little activity and small deal size clearly shows how limited his knowledge of dealmaking happens to be (hmmmm... VNU, Univision, Tribune, yard sale at Primedia, Clear Channel, Sirius-XM, etc.)

Regarding telcos, the fact that they change names has extremely little bearing on finding info on them (thank you Factiva and public filings) and won't alone warrant 3AM's constantly.

As you're clearly a student who wants banking (yet is obviously naive about what is going on in various sectors and acts as a pundit on the matter), maybe you should focus on just reading threads rather than writing in them.

 

"Your search yielded no results. Try some other criteria and be sure search terms are not common words or too short."

I just got that when I searched.

Anyone have an answer to my question though?

 

Top groups at Goldman, in no order: TMT, FIG, Industrials, Healthcare... Many of their groups are considered "Good". It would be redundant to list each and every one.

MS: M&A, Real Estate, FIG/Industrials are 2nd to Goldman, Healthcare.

Just look at the league tables.

 

[quote=baloogafish]Top groups at Goldman, in no order: TMT, M&A, FIG, Industrials, Healthcare... Many of their groups are considered "Good". It would be redundant to list each and every one. MS: M&A, Real Estate, FIG/Industrials are 2nd to Goldman, Healthcare. Just look at the league tables.

You clearly have no idea what you're talking about if you say GS M&A is one of GS's best groups.

 

Rankings are dumb. Very dumb. You would be beyond lucky to be in almost any group at any of these banks. Yes, FIG will be hot but so will healthcare. And M&A in general is hardly expected to slow down. In other words, there are a huge amount of great groups available that will have excellent upcoming deal flow and recruiting prospects at all three of these banks (as well as other banks, of course).

 

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