2024 ADC/APD Summer Programs/Full-Time Applications Thread
Starting this thread for 2024 ADC/APD Summer Program/FT application!
Summer Programs:
- McKinsey Insight
- Bridge to BCG
- Bain ADvantage
- Connect to Clearview
- Link to LEK
- EMBARK with EY-P
Other firms of interest include:
- Health Advances
- IQVIA
- Putnam
- Clarion
- CRA
Feel free to add in additional firms that are recruiting for PhD but not on this list.
Based on the most helpful WSO content, it looks like you're setting up a thread for the 2024 ADC/APD Summer Programs and Full-Time applications, which is a great way to share information and updates among peers. Here's a bit more detail on the programs you've listed:
Other firms of interest that you've mentioned, like Health Advances, IQVIA, Putnam, Clarion, and CRA, are also well-known for their work with PhDs and other advanced degree holders, often in life sciences, healthcare, and strategy consulting.
If you're looking to add more firms to your list, consider looking at previous threads from 2020 to 2023 on Wall Street Oasis, as they may have additional firms that have been of interest in the past. Remember, networking and getting to know each firm's culture and work can be just as important as the application itself. Keep an eye out for application deadlines and prepare well for the interviews. Good luck!
Sources: 2023 ADC/APD Summer Programs/Full-Time Applications Thread, 2020 ADC/APD Summer Programs/Full-Time Applications Thread, 2020 ADC/APD Summer Programs/Full-Time Applications Thread, 2021 ADC/APD Summer Programs/Full-Time Applications Thread, 2022 ADC/APD Summer Programs/Full-Time Applications Thread
Looking for case partners! I am a Berkeley STEM Ph.D. student with industry and business school experience. Currently applying to MBB bridge programs. Private message me if you are interested in working together.
Has anyone heard back from Connect to ClearView? Their first deadline was 2/19 and on the website says interviews will be out 1 week after the deadline. I haven’t heard anything so wondering if it means rejection.
I received a rejection from them yesterday. Oh well.
still haven’t heard back from them lol…
Nothing from ClearView, anyone heard from Bain given their deadline is today?
Have you heard from clearview yet? Still nothing for me
I interviewed with Clearview this week. They sent an invitation email last week. Probably they’re still sending?
On the application portal, it now says closed. So I assume no interview. But I did not receive an email….
Received the one-way video invite to Bridge yesterday. I know some other applicants who were rejected without the invite, but I was under the assumption that all applicants would be asked to do it.
When did you apply for Bridge? Does anyone know if admissions are rolling?
I believe rolling I got approximately one week after submitting application
It’s rolling, I believe. The application hasn’t closed yet, though.
Also received one-way video invite to Bridge last week. Got the invitation for McKinsey solve game today
I did the McKinsey game this week. It went okay, I think, but we’ll see.
Did anyone receive coffee chat invites for Bain ADvantage? Not sure until when they send invites
I got invite in mid Feb and did it this Monday I think the recruiter mentioned there won’t be more bc they will be reviewing applications. I’m not sure if this is the one you are referring to?
Yep, that's the coffee chat I was referring to. Thanks for sharing the info. Based on last year's timeline, I think they should send some notifications this week.
Should I assume rejected if I didn’t get a coffee chat invite?
rejected from LEK 03/15
Same here, anyone know what kind of thing they are looking for and is this going to affect FT position chances?
Based on what I heard from current associates at LEK, it doesn't really matter whether you participate in Link when it comes to FT applications.
I know some people who got rejection notices earlier today. I haven't heard back either way. It still says "application under review" in my portal.
Interviewing next week had multiple consulting/investment analyst experience and leadership role
Rejected from McKinsey Insight 3/19. Completed the PSG last week.
Do you mind sharing the email you received with the wording for applying in the future?
Also received a rejection:
Thank you for expressing interest in McKinsey & Company's Insight 2024 program. While we appreciate the time you took to submit an application, we unfortunately are unable to invite you to the program. We will not be able to provide individual feedback on this decision.
If you remain interested in our career opportunities and meet our APD candidate qualifications for this cycle, our full-time Associate application deadline is June 7, 2024.
If you are graduating prior to December 2024 or currently working full-time, you can apply as an experienced professional. We encourage you to apply for the appropriate role 2-3 months prior to your graduation or at any time if you are working full-time. Please review current openings on our Careers site.
Thank you again for your interest in McKinsey & Company.
I received a rejection. This is the email I got.
Thank you for taking the time to apply for our Insight 2024 Program. While we are very impressed with your application, we are unable to extend an invitation to this particular event. We often have to make difficult choices between many high caliber applicants and would like to emphasize that the majority of our advanced degree recruits each year did not participate in a selective program in advance of submitting their full-time application and interviewing.
We hope that you remain excited about exploring McKinsey and would love for you to apply for our full-time Associate opportunity by June 7, 2024! Your background is a strong fit for the consulting pathway. Since you already have a profile in our system, this should be a quick process! Please also note that you will not need to retake the digital assessment game, Solve.
We will continue to host virtual events to help you stay connected and finalize preparation for your full-time Associate application. Our APD website will remain your number one resource for all updates.
We hope that you remain interested in exploring opportunities with McKinsey & Company and look forward to getting to know you more in the coming months!
This is the same email I received. Are you by chance in the southeast? I am interested in seeing whether the variability is due to applicant profiles or based on region/recruiter drafting the email.
You mean university? No I am actually from the northeast and I applied to various locations around US (I don’t necessarily remember which ones unfortunately).
Same email I got. I’m not sure if it actually means we had good/better applications, or if it just depends on who drafted the email. I also applied in the NE, fwiw.
I am also looking for case interview prep partners if anyone is interested.
same rejection email here. APD from the Northeast, message me if you are looking for casing partners.
Anyone got ADvantage invites today? And what office did you hear from?
just got a rejection, northeast
Same.. did coffee chat and case workshop what a bummer🥶
I just got rejected for Bain ADvantage. Very generic rejection email. I kind of expected it because I hadn’t participated in any outreach events or networking before application. I might be wrong but is it true that Bain prefers people who have been actively participating in their events? Currently, it’s impossible to know what makes a difference to your application since I am sure everyone has stellar profiles already.
To people who atleast got invited to attend case workshops or interview, do you have any tips on how to network ? Any specific pointers on resume writing ? Anything that made a huge difference (for example unique experiences, major, gpa, location, etc)? Do they only truly hire from the top target schools?
Really appreciate your inputs. Please help us navigate what seems like a black box at the moment and hope we can help each other out as a community.
truly a black box! I only did a coffee chat with an alum from my school who is now at Bain (target school, northeast), got a workshop invite, thought I did well at the workshop and got rejected. Thinking whether it's worth to reapply to Bain in the regular cycle since they staff primarily out of ADVantage.
Thanks for sharing. It doesn’t seem like it’s an open and accessible pathway. Bain did visit our school but they weren’t actively encouraging any
networking or chats for ADC candidates. This has got me second guessing about applying FT to Bain since they claim to be a ‘people centric’ firm. The process is not transparent at all for Bain. I believe McK and BCG have done a much better job in keeping opportunities open for ADC candidates. I would rather devote more time to firms who seriously consider hiring ADC candidates.
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Has anybody heard anything from BCG after submitting the one-way interview? Are they sending the Pymetrics test this year?
The one-way interview deadline is today at midnight, so I don't expect to hear anything until the end of the week or beginning of next at the earliest. I only did mine last Friday.
I just (3/26 afternoon) received an email with a survey asking to confirm office preferences. They indicated there will be an application update in mid-April.
anyone heard from Clearview post interview?
nothing yet. Has anyone heard from other boutique consulting (CRA, Propel, Oliver Wyman, Trinity)?
nothing on the other boutiques firms. friend got the connect to clearview invite today
Rejected from propel yesterday
Anyone got waitlisted for Bain ADvantage this year or last year? What was the experience like and likelihood of getting off the list
I'm concerned that MBB won't be hiring a lot of APD's in this cycle.
I have three APD friends currently at B and the other B. All three of them have been doing mostly beach work or completely benched for the past 6 months, and apparently a lot of their recruitment year colleagues are in the same position. Firms are actively trying to increase attrition rates to shred the hires they've done in the 21-22 cycles, and one strategy is to use their lack of involvement in projects as a justification to CTL them. There just aren't enough projects to sustain them regardless of performance.
I asked why the firms are even hiring then, and they think it might be to keep up appearances and/or maintain good relations with MBA programs. So I wonder if the share of APD hires might decrease to better accommodate MBA hires. Regardless, it sounds like it's tough to break into. Maybe I need a second PhD - that'll show them.
Just got invited to Link to LEK. Also received interview invitation for Lumanity propel.
Just got invited to Bridge to BCG finalist interviews. It will have a short virtual interview + online case.
Super excited!
Congratulations!! Which offices ?
I applied to offices in the East Coast.
For those that got Bridge2BCG, did you all get referrals? Trying to figure out how I could make myself more competitive for FT.
Anyone heard since ADvantage interview?
Any updates on Oliver Wyman or Trinity? I know someone who has gotten a reject from OW, but no offers or interviews so far…
Did anybody get acceptances or interviews from McKinsey Insight? I applied and completed the McKinsey online game, but unlike my classmates, never got a rejection email from McKinsey. My application also isn’t appearing in the McKinsey dashboard when I log in (as pending, rejected, or successful) and McKinsey’s recruiting operations point of contact hasn’t been able to get any info for me. Has anyone received an acceptance or invitation to interview?
dinged by BCG after Bridge finalist interview
Same here, not sure if it was the case or the fit interview. Good luck in the next cycle!
Does anyone have any insight as to how much firms hire from summer externships vs full time applications?
It's firm dependent. Most T2s tend to hire almost exclusively from summer externships due to the small consultant class sizes. For MBB:
1. McKinsey: Historically hired about equally from full-time/ McKinsey Insight given that Insight is a small program relative to McKinsey's size
2. BCG: More from Bridge to BCG, some full-time historically. For 2023 however full-time hiring was frozen outside of a few major offices like NY and Boston, but FT hiring for those were dramatically decreased compared to previous years.
3. Bain: Hires almost exclusively from Advantage regardless of economic conditions. Very rarely hire from full-time. FT hiring during 2023 was completely frozen in the US for ADCs.
Sauce: ADC SO that applied last cycle and received McK + BCG offers
Congrats to everyone who received an offer through Bain Advantage! Best of luck to anyone attending Bridge and hopefully Insight people might get interviews (McK is being a bit fishy there)
How’s BCGs offer rate from Bridge this year? Any insights for FT positions at MBB? Anyone heard anything regarding FT?
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