Buybacks / Mkt cap question

Hi, am reading the Motley Fool guide to valuations. It says that share buybacks are good because they increase the EPS by reducing the shares outstanding. It also says that mkt cap is price x shares outstanding. But does that mean with share buybacks the market cap reduces / does mkt cap exclude value of stocks owned by the company? Surely that can't make sense as you can have a $50bn mkt cap company where the company owns 20% of it? Or not?

Thx

 

Pepstar:

Quit wasting people’s time. Don’t post here. I come to this forum to learn shit and you’re playing pranks. If you want be a smart-ass, do it face-to-face.

 

Dood.. you're a 1st year associate and you're reading up on valuation from fool.com. Isn't that kinda.. basic for you?

Here.. I'll give you a clue.. if EPS increases.. what happens to share price?

 

Haha. Yeah, it is pretty amusing that I've got where I've got without knowing some of the most basic shizzle. Back in grad training I was chucked off the credit structuring desk and put into equities as they thought I couldn't handle it. Best thing that ever happened to me lol, those dorks got flat YoY (1st -> 2nd yr) bonuses. Anyway, I asked a couple of people on my team at work today and they weren't so sure either - a VP didn't know where the shares "went" once bought back, instead of Treasury he said they were converted to cash! And there was disagreement about whether the mkt cap would get back to previous levels or not through share price increase.

 

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