Best Mining Group in North America? Culture, deal flow, etc.
Currently an analyst in a mining IB at a boutique in Vancouver, hoping to move to Toronto or the U.S long term and stick with the mining industry. Any thoughts on specific big 5 / BB in Toronto? Any real players in the U.S?
Can't wait for BMO hur hur
BMO is the top in NA. I’d imagine you’d be able to infer a lot of other folks from league tables for mining in your pitch decks
Do you have views on any other firms? I'm weary of BMO's culture and don't want to burn out prematurely
Probably CIBC and then National Bank for mining. Scotia’s team has kind of fallen apart, and RBC has not had a strong mining team for some time.
The Scotia Toronto team?
A couple years ago, NBF hired a bunch of mining bankers from Scotia who I think were all Toronto based, that could be what they are referring to about Scotia. Not exactly sure what has happened to Scotia mining since then but anecdotally I do not see them as an advisor as often as some of the other bigger Canadian banks.
To address some of the OP's other points:
How does an independent like Canaccord/Cormark stack up against the big 5 and National? In terms of deal flow, comp, culture, etc.
I think all of those factors will vary depending on the place but I tried to make some broad generalizations listed below. In general though if you are trying to optimize for the biggest deals, generally consistent deal flow, highest comp and best exits, I would recommend going with the Big 5, NBF or the US banks (vs. the independents).
Deal Flow
Compensation
Culture
BMO is hard-working but manageable, and take my word for it, the worst of the culture is gone with the recent culling.
Scotia / CIBC / NBF suck lol, BMO is #1
CIBC was great, NBF had its time for a bit too
National poached all of Scotia some time ago and has decent deal flow and good hours.
However, despite the notoriety, no group in North America comes close to BMO M&M. Boutiques and some other shops may get on the absolutely massive deals (because those are more M&A than technically mining focused), but BMO really punches above it’s weight and stands far apart from any other mining shop in Toronto.
RBC mining is the most dog shit team I’ve ever come across. The 2 VPs are the biggest dorks on Bay Street and the platform is just pitching and wearing ties.
100%
Friend interned there and developed health problems lol
BMO M&M is undisputedly the best group in NA. The culture post firing has (reportedly, I’m not at BMO) been radio silence as people are too scared to speak. Still as sweaty as it ever was.
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