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THE BIG SHORT 2 ELECTRIC BOOGALOO

Jared Dillian's picture
Jared Dillian
      ST
 
 
(Senior Baboon, 208
 
Points)
 on 3/11/13 at 4:30pm
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At great risk of alienating any and all Canadian housing bulls, the more I read and study, the more I am convinced that the housing market is about to drop a daisy cutter on Canada.

I don’t even know where to begin. Why don’t we begin here: these guys have had rates at one percent (just like we did) for a long time (just like we did) for really no good reason (just like we did) because they had some maestro central banker that everybody trusted (just like we did) and the country is coming off of years of economic growth, really a gilded age (just like we did) which has resulted in a 10-year property bull market (just like we had) which is of course quite extended in some local areas (just like we had) and prices were up triple digit percent in some areas (just like what happened here) and now people are flipping houses and condos (just like what happened here) and there are tens of thousands of units being built (just like what happened here) and household debt is at all time highs (just like what happened here) and of course the real estate industry is more bullish than ever (just like what happened here) and are constantly going around telling people that there is no bubble (just like what happened here) and homeownership rates have reached all time high levels (just like what happened here) and the quality of construction is starting to decline (just like what happened here) and home prices have gone down for five months straight and people are saying that it’s different this time and that the high prices are justified by immigration or X, Y, and Z (just like what happened here) and the banking industry is trying to tighten lending standards ex post facto (just like what happened here) but the genie is already out of the bottle (just like what happened here) and people are going around saying that houses are a better investment than stocks or bonds (just like what happened here) and the smart guys, like Shiller, are ringing alarm bells (just like what happened here) and it’s different this time and it’s different this time and it’s different this time, but let me tell you how the situation is different, you want to know how it is different? Canada is different because they have no room to lower rates, so they are even more screwed than we were!

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Elisa Lam

Culcet's picture
Culcet
      EN
 
(Senior Orangutan, 407
 
Points)
 on 2/27/13 at 11:41pm

So.... anyone else following this?

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How Junior Oil Companies Will Stay Alive and Thrive: Interview with Chris Cooper

oilprice's picture
oilprice
      EN
 
(Gorilla, 574
 
Points)
 on 2/22/13 at 3:31pm

The oil and gas game can be a tricky one for junior companies, but if played right the pay-off can be massive. At a time when juniors are risking a lot in volatile venues in the Middle East and Africa, Canada’s Aroway Energy (ARW) is planting its feet firmly in homeland soil and in conventional plays.

Why? Because for the smaller juniors this is not a long-term game and blowing all your capital to drill a single unconventional well in a risky frontier won’t pay off. Canada still has plenty to offer for juniors, even though you have to kiss plenty of frogs to find the prince. The end game, after all, is merger and acquisition.

In an exclusive interview with Oilprice.com, Aroway CEO Chris Cooper discusses:

• How to make or break a junior oil and gas company

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Does it matter what undergrad school you went to if you get into a target grad school?

legitpro's picture
legitpro
     
 
(Monkey, 55
 
Points)
 on 2/11/13 at 2:38pm

I am curious does it matter what undergrad i went to if I get into a prestigious target school?

I am from canada, and I go to a non target school 3.8 gpa and was wondering if i get into lets say University of Toronto's MFE or Queens Mfin will it really matter what i did in my undergrad?

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Happy Hour Review: WSO Toronto

In The Flesh's picture
In The Flesh
      HF
 
 
(Neanderthal, 2,801
 
Points)
 on 2/12/13 at 12:30pm
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It had been a hell of a day to travel anywhere in the Northeast.

Winter storm Nemo had just dumped 2 and a half feet of snow in the greater Boston area, and only a little less in New York.
I had been planning to visit Toronto for a while to attend a WSO Happy Hour and see the sights, and the weekend of Feburary 9th also happened to be Chinese New Year. Two things to celebrate in one weekend.

It almost didn’t happen. Although my connecting flight from Montreal to Toronto went ahead, I ended up sitting on the tarmac for almost 3 hours while the airport people flailed around helplessly trying to figure out what to do about the blizzard…in Toronto, Canada, of all places. I spent more time on the ground than in the air!

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Canadian here, should I do grad school in the USA? MFin, MIM, MS

legitpro's picture
legitpro
     
 
(Monkey, 55
 
Points)
 on 1/31/13 at 1:08pm

What title says, do you think it would be worth it for me to pay international fees to attend school in the USA? Do you think I can break in to the USA market, prob need a work permit.

Or would my time be better spent trying to break into the Canadian market by doing a Mfin program from Rotman, Schulich, Queens?

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Current 3rd yr undergrad (non-target), Need Advice (PLEASE)

legitpro's picture
legitpro
     
 
(Monkey, 55
 
Points)
 on 1/27/13 at 1:34pm

Hey I know many ppl here are very knowledgeable and was wondering what should I do. Currently have a 3.8 GPA, and I am from Canada (Toronto).

I was wondering what should I do CFA, MBA, MFIN, MFE...

I think I would like to do investment banking so I was thinking of aiming to do my MFin, at Queens University. I believe Rotman, Ivey, and Queens students run Bay Street. Though Queen's Mfin program usually require candidates to have work experience they will make an exception for strong candidates that demonstrate two of the qualities (undergrad in business, gmat >650, and CFA lvl 1).

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Canadian Grad Schools Right After Graduation

legitpro's picture
legitpro
     
 
(Monkey, 55
 
Points)
 on 1/25/13 at 10:51pm

US schools seem too expensive for me, and I think I would stay in canada despite the BB being in USA. I am at a non target and I want to break into banking and think by going to a grad program it will give me access to recruiters to help me break in. Know of any good programs?

So far this is what I am looking at:
York Schulich MFin
UToronto Rotman MFin
Waterloo Quantitative Finance
McMaster or Laurier Co op MBA

From what I heard a MBA is more valuable, but I know many top schools do not accept ppl straight after undergrad. I am more inclined to do a MBA because if I do not break into banking I can fall back on F500, though it does not seem like much in comparison. So I am left looking at tier two MBA programs or Master programs like MFin.

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3.8 GPA, Should I just give up until i get to grad school?

legitpro's picture
legitpro
     
 
(Monkey, 55
 
Points)
 on 1/24/13 at 10:26pm

Been trying to get a summer job, feels like next to impossible to land a banking "summer" job. I am coming from a non target school, i have won awards for writing creative essays which translated into my cover letter but I only got 1 interview.

I am also from Canada. I feel like I should just do grad school and go into a Mfin program and try my luck there.

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Consulting in Canada

ParambirBajwa's picture
ParambirBajwa
     
 
(Chimp, 4
 
Points)
 on 11/28/12 at 5:33pm

I'm a senior in high school thinking about where I should go for College. I'm originally from Toronto but moved to Detroit in middle school. Right now, I'm trying to decide whether or not I should go to school in Canada. I'm hoping on getting in to the University of Michigan and going to Ross but in case I don't get in, I would like to go to the University of Toronto. I wanted to know if American consulting firms actually recruit people from the University of Toronto. Also, how is the consulting scene in Canada? How does salary, competitiveness, and lifestyle differ? Thank you.

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Canada vs USA Undergrad?

thefirsttimer's picture
thefirsttimer
     
 
(Chimp, 7
 
Points)
 on 11/20/12 at 8:14pm

Hello!

I am currently enrolled in a private school in ontario. I am in grade 12, and have a very good chance of being accepted into Harvard or Wharton, because of my connections (through private school), 4.00 GPA, IB (International Baccalaureate), and 2300 SAT, and great EC's.
I don't want to go through my application, but I had trouble on a decision I have to make soon.

Lets say I got accepted into both Harvard, Wharton, and Richard Ivey.

My parents paid $40k/year for my high school education, and they will for my younger brother too (who is in grade 6).

They are going to have trouble paying off the $60k/year for my university and $40k/year for my brother, since their business is going down anyway, but they'll do it (and go into debt) if I wanted to go to H or W.

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LSE's reputation in the Canadian market?

MountainKing's picture
MountainKing
     
 
(Monkey, 60
 
Points)
 on 11/7/12 at 6:13am

How is LSE viewed in the Canadian Job Market? Specifically the MSc in Accounting & Finance.

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Equity L/S funds in British Columbia/Alberta?

MountainKing's picture
MountainKing
     
 
(Monkey, 60
 
Points)
 on 11/4/12 at 4:38pm

Hi.

I'm looking to get a foot in the door at an Equity L/S fund in/around British Columbia/Alberta. I might be starting at the University of British Columbia for an Econ Masters with a CFA.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers
MK

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Further sanctions against Chinese tech companies

trazer985's picture
trazer985
      ST
 
 
(King Kong, 1,743
 
Points)
 on 10/10/12 at 6:01am

Canada has jumped on the bandwagon of people that don't trust Chinese tech companies in the same day that Cisco has ceased cooperation with a company that was selling their products to Iran.

Predicting this will spread to the EU soon. Cheap just isn't worth the cost. Irony at its finest.

Just keeping fellow monkeys informed of progress in this part.

sources:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19879864

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Too high GPA?

CanDo's picture
CanDo
     
 
(Monkey, 54
 
Points)
 on 9/5/12 at 5:54am

I go to a Canadian university and GPA is calculated in terms of % here.

My uni has their own guide to to GPA conversion.

So if I have an average GPA of 86%, this would mean A. This would translate into something like 4.05/4.33.

How would GPA: 86% (4.05/4.33) look to a banker?

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Canadian I-Banking Recruitment

CanadianBankerHopeful's picture
CanadianBankerH...
     
 
(Chimp, 4
 
Points)
 on 8/25/12 at 12:41pm

Hey all;

Going into fourth year in a Canadian feeder school (think, Ivey/Queens/Sculich).

Does any one know how many summer analysts were hired back at the big Canadian 5 banks?

Anyone know what recruitment will be like for FT in September?

I have heard its going to be a tough hiring year...

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Business Career Options as a Canadian

j_pkmn's picture
j_pkmn
     
 
(Chimp, 2
 
Points)
 on 8/16/12 at 3:21pm

Hi there,
Sorry if I posted this in the wrong forum, I'm fairly new to this website.
As the title mentions, I'm a Canadian attending the University of Western Ontario (will be in the Richard Ivey School of Business HBA program starting 3rd year)

As of now, I have been looking into becoming a Chartered Accountant (CA) after I graduate from university. However, after some careful consideration and some research, I feel as if the finance route would definitely be another option for me.

Maybe I am mistaken, but from doing some research online, I can see that Finance (more specifically investment banking, hedge funds, private equity etc.) is more prominent and "grande" in the US and is difficult to break into as a Canadian.

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Need input - RUSH or RELAX? (non-target now vs chance at semi-target)

elh's picture
elh
     
 
(Senior Chimp, 23
 
Points)
 on 8/15/12 at 1:54am
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Alright,

Options:

(1) RUSH: I can go right now to complete non-target (this would rush me on the BBA Finance/Accounting from a tier-3 university)

(2) RELAX: I can take "an extra year" with additional courses to significantly boost my university application average and go to a "semi-target"

I will also have a lot of free time and I will have the budget for Wall Street Prep and some MMA training.

so.. Rush... or... Relax?
******Rush to non-target uni vs. take a year to polish my application, get credentials, train hard, and network******

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Canadians interning in the USA

elh's picture
elh
     
 
(Senior Chimp, 23
 
Points)
 on 8/15/12 at 12:35am
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How do you get a permit to work in the states over the summer?

Do you need to get the Visa before you get the job or does the firm help you get it once you are successfully interviewed?

Basically; how much harder is it for canadians to get SA positions in NY or LA?

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Any advice for a Canadian?

thelonesomecrowdedwest's picture
thelonesomecrow...
     
 
(Chimp, 3
 
Points)
 on 6/26/12 at 9:48pm

Hi everyone,

Like a lot of people, I am interested in getting into Investment Banking. I am one of those who are doing the career change thing. Some background: 23 years old, from Canada (Toronto), zero banking experience. I completed my undergraduate degree at McGill University in Microbiology and Immunology (Bsc). I have realized that neither lab research nor medicine is the path for me.

Wrote the GMAT a while ago and applied to some schools, all in Canada. I have been accepted into the following MBA programs: Ivey, Rotman, Schulich, Queens, and Desautels.

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Canada bank prop group

theboy's picture
theboy
     
 
(Chimp, 4
 
Points)
 on 6/15/12 at 11:25pm

Hi,

Is it possible if you guys can PM me the names for the heads of the prop group for the Canadian banks? (ie GAT for RBC, Strategic risk for BMO etc).. I'm currently a strategist at a stat arb hedge fund in nyc and thinking of moving to Toronto... I'm sure some of the prop group can utilize some of my signals but I can't seem to be able to contact the right headhunter that has the connection to those groups (most of them does ibanks positions).. So i'm thinking of just directly contact them... So if anyone can PM me their names, that would be greatly appreciated..

Thanks,
- theboy

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Getting into VC in Canada

cdnbanker's picture
cdnbanker
      IB
 
(Senior Baboon, 180
 
Points)
 on 6/11/12 at 12:51am

Hello all,

Just wondering if anyone here has experience with getting into the Canadian VC space, especially for someone coming from a (NY) BB background. I presume the recruiting process is a lot less structured, so was wondering what the best way to get a foot in the door would be.

Also, from what I understand, the Canadian VC space is quite fragmented. I've heard of a few names like Real Ventures, iNova, and Edgestone. Are these the main players or are there others out there?

Would appreciate any insight.

Cheers!

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What should I do this summer?

YE777's picture
YE777
     
 
(Senior Baboon, 182
 
Points)
 on 4/28/12 at 8:16am

Hello,
I just finished freshman at Canadian semi-target.
My gpa is probably around 3.7.

My question is what should I do this summer?
This year, I didn't do any jobs or clubs during the school year making my resume blank (Focused too much on academics).
I did not even start applying for internships (most are past due dates now)

How should I start my career?
I'm thinking of taking the CFA Level 1 this summer?
Is this a good start?
I think it will be a good indication towards my interest in finance.
Or is it better to just work at some office as receptionist and earn some money?

P.S. My only past work experience is at McDonalds in high school.

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Canada Eliminates the Penny - What does it Mean?

asiamoney's picture
asiamoney
     
 
(King Kong, 1,117
 
Points)
 on 3/30/12 at 2:53pm

So, Canada decided today to remove the penny from circulation... http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-03-29/canada-el...

Should the U.S. do the same? What would some non-obvious effects be?

I was reading an interesting article in Barron's about how removing the penny here would not only impact Main Street, but also widen bid/ask spreads in trading. Thoughts?

http://online.barrons.com/article/SB50001424053111...

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Question about Canadian Risk Factors for the Financial Sector

CatWithaHat's picture
CatWithaHat
      PE
 
(Monkey, 35
 
Points)
 on 3/18/12 at 8:17pm

Hi,

I am beginning my major class in Finance and we have to choose a Sector, find industry specific data that relates to that sector, and then run regressions and make an assessment of our findings...

Since the financial sector is key in Canada, I thought it would be interesting and more relevant than let's say the airline industry (where you pick oil, alluminum as factors for example).

However, for the "Financial Sector", I'm kinda clueless on what those factors would be. And if they can be easily found and worth the work for a small project (worth about 6% of final grade)

For a start, I was thinking to use Canada, us, euro, china, Currency / GDP / Dept / ??? It seems kinda macro though, maybe I'm off?

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Go Canada Go!

ConanDBull's picture
ConanDBull
      CO
 
(Gorilla, 542
 
Points)
 on 3/5/12 at 10:44am

Just a bit of Canadian Propaganda for you jive A-MUR-EE-CAN turkies

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/...

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Target Programs in Canada

saulgoodman's picture
saulgoodman
      ST
 
(Senior Chimp, 17
 
Points)
 on 2/28/12 at 7:00pm

hi everyone,

i got my BA in Finance in Manchester, UK and i was just wondering if anyone could suggest some target programs/schools like an MBA or a M.A in Financial Economics. i know the usual five are Ivey, Schulich, Rotman, McGill and Queen but i was wondering if anyone had any advice on what program would be best to try and break into IB in Canada after graduation. internships, analyst/associate roles, etc. I went for an interview with Vlaad & Co. last week and the person i spoke with suggested MFE at UofT. all your input is much appreciated.

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Freshman Resume at a Canadian School

Powa23's picture
Powa23
     
 
(Orangutan, 291
 
Points)
 on 2/26/12 at 6:39pm

Hey guys,

It's my first try at a resume critique on WSO. I just used and modified the M&I format. I'm not using it for the summer but it'll be good to know what are the main faults etc.

Thanks and I apologize if its too blurry.

http://www.razume.com/documents/24572

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Dodd-Frank / Volcker rule impacts on Canadian bank prop desks

energy-trader's picture
energy-trader
      ST
 
(Monkey, 30
 
Points)
 on 2/26/12 at 4:12pm

I'm having difficulty finding relevant info on how the large Canadian banks will be impacted by the new legislation. Does anyone have any insights or sources?

If you can't comment on Canada specifically... do you really expect the Volcker rule to pass and force prop desk shutdowns in the US?

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Canadian Prime Minister Shills Alberta Oil Sands in China

oilprice's picture
oilprice
      EN
 
(Gorilla, 574
 
Points)
 on 2/14/12 at 10:29am

Canadian Conservative Prime Minister Stephen Harper is in the midst of an official visit to China.

His mission?

To convince Beijing’s mandarins to buy Canada’s Alberta oil sands hydrocarbon production, now that Republican Congressional overreach has effectively sidelined the Keystone XL pipeline, designed to transit the oil to U.S. Gulf of Mexico refineries, for the foreseeable future.

Harper faces an uphill struggle, as China is questioning the delays in implementing the Northern Gateway pipeline, to transit Alberta’s oil to Canada’s western coast for transshipment to China.

Complicating the picture, Harper has a weak hand of cards, and both he and the Chinese know it.

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Assuming that you have access to no financial products such as FactSet, Bloomberg, CapitalIQ, Thomson or otherwise, thought it would be helpful to give a step by step guide on how to ramp up on a new company from your home computer. Using FaceBook as an example. Lets go ahead and start with the...
Basic Guide Ramping Up On A Company With Public Information (Part 1 of 3)
Fellow Primates, We are looking for 1-2 students on each campus to help WSO in its sales efforts to student clubs/career centers, and overall promotion at your school both online and on the ground. Below is a description of the position and benefits...thanks in advance for your help! <a...
WSO is Looking for Campus Reps For Summer/Fall 2013 (and beyond)
<em>“You know, In The Flesh,”</em> a WSO monkey told me at a recent Happy Hour, <em>“that gentleman’s book is the real deal. I ordered that shit on Amazon as soon as I read your review. It’s so right, man. I want to be like that: keep my word, honor my commitments, be...
Being A Gentleman, Revisited
Someone was asking me about this in PM and I wrote a long and detailed reply about what it is like to work in Big 4 and what advice I would give to people thinking about interning / working there. Thought it might be useful for others so my reply is below. Happy to answer any...
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