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Exit Opps
 

Graduated Today, Job Search Continues, Advice Needed

TheGoodGatsby's picture
TheGoodGatsby
     
 
(Chimp, 5
 
Points)
 on 5/14/13 at 4:05pm

Hello WSO,
been lurking for a while, love this site and the witty commenters.
Have a question, but first heres background.
Graduating this week, no job offer. Dece GPA, non-banking experience but have better internships than waiting tables or working at car washes (though I did that for a little summer liquidity).

I'd like to end up (of course) in IB... to be honest at a boutique actually. I think it suits my personality and independence.
But I am a very realistic person. I know I'm not getting an IBD offer out of school, especially this late in the game. Got a call recently for a JPMorgan Chase Commercial Banking Analyst interview. I took it because who can be picky in my situation?
But now I'm second-guessing everything after reading around, talking to people, going on WSO.

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Moving from the buy-side to the sell-side

GoodElevators's picture
GoodElevators
      AM
 
(Senior Chimp, 24
 
Points)
 on 4/17/13 at 10:57pm

I'm working for a BB HFOF (first year out of school) and am wondering if it is possible to move to investment banking. I feel that I do not have a solid skill set for long-term survival in the industry if I stick with HFOF.

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Junior Analyst/ Database Analyst Exit Opps

UdoMayer's picture
UdoMayer
     
 
(Chimp, 15
 
Points)
 on 3/17/13 at 2:34am

Greetings WSO community,

Can anyone share the potential exit opps for a junior analyst or a database analyst for that matter?

Looking into an entry level job as a junior analyst and would want to know the exit opps, and the duration for being an junior analyst/ database analyst.

Would really appreciate your thoughts.

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Corporate & Institutional Banking Relationship Manager- Need Advice

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Nakaldun7913
      O
 
(Senior Monkey, 79
 
Points)
 on 2/21/13 at 1:29pm

Hey all. So, of course I drop down to the WSO gods and humbly ask for a line or two of advice. I am being recruited for a MM Corporate Banking Relationship Manager position for a large bank. This position would be working with general funding issues, capital injections, M&A advisory, etc etc. I am currently a commercial credit analyst at a tiny bank in the Midwest. I like the analytical aspect of my current position, but when I say I work for a tiny CB, I mean my credit dept. is 3 people, including me.

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Non-Target life after banking

MindOverMonkey's picture
MindOverMonkey
      IB
 
(Baboon, 165
 
Points)
 on 2/8/13 at 9:57am
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So you're from a non-target school and got an offer for a BB IBD NY internship. You secure the FT offer and move on to your prestigious career as an excel slave in IB. Year 2 rolls around and people are receiving offers to go bask in the supposed glory that is the buy side.

Will you have already broken the curse of being from a non-target school by making it to IB and performing well or will you still be put lower on the totem pole than your target school colleagues? Would HFs care more than PE firms?

Here's to hoping it won't take till an MBA.

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Where can I go from FP&A role at tech company? (exit opps)

Steno's picture
Steno
     
 
(Chimp, 12
 
Points)
 on 1/28/13 at 3:01am

I have a job doing financial planning and analysis (FP&A) at a (mature and midsize) tech company when I graduate. I don't want to get too specific about what they do. What kind of exit opps are there? I want to get into something sexier than FP&A, although I'm not sure how bad FP&A is. Since I go to an extreme non-target it was considered one of the best jobs one can get from my school.

So my first question is, how good/bad is FP&A relative to the universe of finance jobs? Has anyone here had one? How is it? I know some are more accounting based than others. It seems a lot more fun than credit analysis for no-name banks and all the other jobs that recruit at my school.

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Neuberger Berman Private Equity Group - Thoughts?

banking411's picture
banking411
     
 
(Chimp, 2
 
Points)
 on 1/19/13 at 4:11pm

Neuberger Berman (formerly spun off from Lehman) seems like a very solid asset management firm.

Currently looking into its private equity group which does fund investing, secondaries, but also co-investing and mezzanine debt investing. Anyone have thoughts on exit opps after? Would it be very tough to lateral to direct buyout firms after? This is assuming 2 years of IBD experience prior to NB.

Is it better to stay in IBD and try hard for pure MM PE directly? Or would this be a solid gig too?

Appreciate any insights

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Exit opportunities from F500 roles? (esp. --> B-School)

DollaDollaBill's picture
DollaDollaBill
     
 
(Chimp, 12
 
Points)
 on 1/8/13 at 6:53pm

Hello all,

I was hoping that someone could shed some light on what types of exit opportunities are likely from F500 roles that someone who joined out of undergrad might have. For example, how do large CPG companies place into business schools? Do such companies typically not sponsor employees for MBAs? Which companies offer the best meritocratic environment and room for rapid career growth and promotion?

Thanks for any help you can provide!

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Trader -> Hedge fund manager -> Bum

GordanBateman's picture
GordanBateman
     
 
(Chimp, 12
 
Points)
 on 1/3/13 at 8:43am

You slog it out as a Trader for a few years and realise that you're a boss. You become a PM and realise you're a boss. Other bosses realise you're a boss and they along with all their boss friends give you some money to play with. You become a hedge fund manger and confirm to all that you're a boss. You generate good returns for a few years and find yourself sitting on a few hundred mil. You close your fund and become a bum.

With a few hundred mil, there are not an awful lot of industries which are closed off to you. Why then is it that we hear very little about hedge fund managers using their cash to become bosses in other industries? Thoughts?

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E&Y OTS Group

jonnyesmuyloca's picture
jonnyesmuyloca
     
 
(Senior Chimp, 28
 
Points)
 on 12/19/12 at 6:53pm

Does anyone have first hand experience or know of anyone that have worked in this group? Seems like an interesting opportunity. I am looking at post undergrad by the way.

Thanks!

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So You Made It to Banking, Now What?

SanityCheck's picture
SanityCheck
      PE
 
 
(Gorilla, 633
 
Points)
 on 12/7/12 at 1:30pm
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Congratulations!!! You made it into investment banking. Of course early on you're excited and just want to spend 100+ hours in the office to impress everyone and get that top bucket bonus, but how do you really get the most mileage out of your 2 year stint in banking? For most, it's about exit ops and this is becoming more and more true as we see bonuses go down the shitter. Heck, a lot of my friends got paid less in their 2nd year than they did in their 1st year!

Now if you're looking to stay for the long haul, this post might not be so helpful. In that case, there really is no secret trick or tips. You simply need to be good, which means a strong work ethic, good technical/modeling skills, and a legitimate interest in chasing deals and closing them.

For the rest of you, there are some ways to set yourself up for an exit while not necessarily suffering the most. So here are some tips from a fellow ex-BB IBD analyst that you won't find in most employee handbooks:

1. Plan your exit ahead of time.

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MS Menlo Park - Healthcare

dogboo's picture
dogboo
     
 
(Senior Orangutan, 378
 
Points)
 on 11/14/12 at 7:21pm

I was wondering if anyone knew anything about MS's Healthcare group in Menlo Park. I rarely hear much about it, considering how strong Ms's tech group is out there.

In terms of exit opps and prestige is what I am mainly looking at.

Thanks in advanced

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Exit opps: Best way to maximize chances at distressed debt / distressed PE?

goldman in da house's picture
goldman in da house
     
 
(Senior Orangutan, 489
 
Points)
 on 11/9/12 at 2:00am

Hi guys, I am a first year analyst at a BB, and I have grown more interested in distressed securities hedge funds and distressed private equity. It looks like the work would involve both value investing style analysis and dealing with, at times, complicated problems. I was hoping to get some advice from those in that industry or second year IB analysts who have interviewed on whether I should focus solely on recruiting for distressed funds or tell the headhunters I am more than willing to start at any PE / HF. Also, which is more relevant for distressed investing: traditional LBO PE or L/S equity HF (if I couldn't find a job in distressed debt / distressed PE to begin with)??

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Exit opps for top vs middle vs bad groups at BBs

Newspeak's picture
Newspeak
      IB
 
(Orangutan, 341
 
Points)
 on 10/9/12 at 12:31am

What is the mix of exit opps in a top group's analyst class (GS TMT, MS M&A, etc) vs average groups vs less strong groups (UBS FIG or something)? Assume a bulge bracket firm.

My guess is that most of MS M&A goes to megafunds if they choose or maybe HF or MM PE if they prefer that. I'm sure that every single person will get an interview at megafunds if they want. However, I'm sure that little more than half of the class actually gets an offer from the top places like BX, KKR, etc., although the percentage is probably among the highest on the street. I'm sure there are at least one or two people per class that screw up their buyside interviews and end up somewhere less desirable.

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Graduating Senior Career

Bear2013's picture
Bear2013
     
 
(Chimp, 12
 
Points)
 on 10/8/12 at 8:10pm

Hi all,

I am a senior at a top school, majoring in statistics with a 4.0 GPA. I am very interested in a quant heavy graduate degree (MBA, Finance, Stat Ph.D) down the road, but would like to get some real world exposure first. I am considering the following, all of which sound very interesting.

ZS Associates- Business Analytics Associate
Nielsen Company- PSAP
Cornerstone Research- Analyst

I would appreciate any advice/opinions/anecdotes regarding the above positions.

Thank you very much

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IB->Traditional AM

Lukster's picture
Lukster
     
 
(Chimp, 9
 
Points)
 on 10/1/12 at 5:18pm

Most people occupy their entire exit opp mindset with PE or HF...how come few ppl focus on going into traditional AMs like Dodge & Cox, Capital Group or PIMCO after their IB stint? If anything, these places pay more and have better hours than many of the PE places.

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Help needed on job role

bsmonkey's picture
bsmonkey
      HF
 
(Senior Monkey, 73
 
Points)
 on 8/17/12 at 11:16am

hello fellow monkeys. i'm in need of some help here. can somebody please explain what does this job EXACTLY entail. im not sure if this is FO/MO/BO. and what could the possible exit opps be? btw, this is for a european BB in APAC. i ask because the requirements for this posting are quite high. any info would be highly appreciated.

Role Overview -
1. Risk reporting
a) Running client positions through risk engine to generate risk sensitivities
b) Consolidating risk engine outputs in database to produce value-added reports
c) Timely end of day reporting for global Risk Team and other internal clients
d) Customized margin reports for clients with different trading strategies
e) Periodical dashboards for senior management

2. Exceptions handling

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Exit opps for an analyst at multifamily lending/loan origination? (CRE)

bananawarfare's picture
bananawarfare
     
 
(Monkey, 31
 
Points)
 on 8/8/12 at 3:46pm
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Hi, currently looking at a job as an analyst at a multifamily lender/loan originator. I don't have a lot of knowledge in commercial real estate, but the job is basically an analyst role working between the loan originators and the underwriters. Can anyone shed some light on how much modelling skills involved in this job and what are the general comp looks like, and more importantly, WHAT are the exit opps available?

Thanks in advance.

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Exit opps for an analyst at a top 10 multifamily lender?

bananawarfare's picture
bananawarfare
     
 
(Monkey, 31
 
Points)
 on 8/2/12 at 12:01am
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Hi, currently considering a job as an analyst at a top 10 multifamily lender/loan originator. Can anyone shed some light on how much modelling skills involved in this job and what are the general comp looks like, and what are the exit opps available? And how does this job look on MBA apps? My goal is to make it into a good REPE or a top REIT.

Thanks in advance.

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WSO Conference 1.0: A Retrospective and Some Advice

TheKing's picture
TheKing
      O
 
 
(Senior Neanderthal, 5,143
 
Points)
 on 7/31/12 at 4:30pm
Laser Focus

Good afternoon, folks. I wanted to deliver a brief retrospective on the first ever WallStreetOasis Conference that took place this past Saturday.

First and foremost, Patrick and the rest of the team working behind the scenes did a fantastic job. I had reasonable expectations going into it, and found that my expectations were blown out of the water. Attendance was unbelievable, the keynote speaker was solid, the panels (of which I sat on one) were excellent and informative, and the audience was truly engaged.

Oh yeah, and the food was pretty solid, too.

Now that a few days have passed since the conference took place, I've had some time to digest and have some overarching thoughts and a little piece of advice I'd like to share...

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Where do you look for Jobs?

Living-The-Dream's picture
Living-The-Dream
      CF
 
(Monkey, 33
 
Points)
 on 7/3/12 at 4:25pm

I don't like my current job in Valuations and I want to leave. My salary leaves much to be desired and there really is no upside potential to the job as bonuses are minimal. I've certainly learned a lot but I'm now looking for another challenge. I've been with a well know firm in the industry (Think Big 4/D&P) for 15 months now and I'm looking to get out. I started with them right out of undergrad.

I've been contacted through LinkedIn by 3 or 4 recruiters over the last couple of months and I always pursue those opportunities but I've yet to get anything other than a phone interview.

I'm not exactly certain what I would like to do but I am considering IB, Equity Research and Corp Strategy (not likely).

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FIG IBD - Next Steps?

dollabillz's picture
dollabillz
      IB
 
(Senior Monkey, 99
 
Points)
 on 6/4/12 at 10:16pm

I'm finishing up my 2nd year in FIG IBD at a bulge bracket, but not a top one. I haven't yet figured out what to do next and could use some advice. Options:

1) Stay in my group for a 3rd year.
My life is pretty easy right now, not much work to do and with 2 classes of Analysts below me, a 3rd year would be easy. I could spend most of my time trying to recruit, and hopefully find something semi-decent with an immediate start at some point. However, I did not have much luck with the main headhunters as I'm not in a top group. Most interviews I've had in the past year have been smaller firms that I found through the smaller headhunters or job websites like Onewire. And I don't think I have the transaction experience that buy side firms are looking for. Also I am sick of my group.

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Path to B-School

mcsteelemobile's picture
mcsteelemobile
     
 
(Senior Chimp, 24
 
Points)
 on 5/17/12 at 2:35pm

I'm curious as to what are the different path's that one takes to get in to a top tier b-school for his/her MBA degree?

I come from a semi-target out here in the mid-west (think Wisconsin, UIUC, Indiana etc.) and am aware of a lot of kids doing 2 years at a BB, 2 years at PE and moving on to Wharton or HBS.

Is it possible to transition to business school by working in a boutique for 2-4 years (since a lot of boutique's turn their analysts in to career bankers) ?

Any inputs or personal experiences would go a long way in being helpful. Thanks!

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Exit Opps from $2B+ PE Fund in LA (direct from undergrad)

LTC's picture
LTC
     
 
(Chimp, 5
 
Points)
 on 5/2/12 at 1:36pm

I'll be starting as an analyst in July at a PE fund with a little over $2B in LA (they've been doing really well recently). It sounds like the experience will be excellent, but I'm wondering how this potentially unfolds down the line.

Do I still go through PE interviews in a year and a half? Is it difficult to switch firms (whether they're larger or not)? Do I stay in PE for only 2 years before MBA or wait longer?

I've crawled all over search but there's not much insight there since direct from undergrad PE isn't common. I'm really excited about the opportunity but just a little unsure about how this all plays out down the line.

Thanks.

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Why does everyone here post asking about exit opps

burningcigar's picture
burningcigar
      IB
 
(Chimp, 4
 
Points)
 on 5/2/12 at 12:04pm

As far as I can tell 99% of us are college students anyway. Kinda silly to be asking about stuff 2-4 years out in the future, like seriously wtf?

Saw this just now and made me laugh because I'm not the only one, you guys might appreciate:

http://wheninfinance.tumblr.com/post/22255481930/w...

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Exit opps for Bridgewater trader?

Derivatives's picture
Derivatives
      ST
 
(Orangutan, 292
 
Points)
 on 4/13/12 at 5:12pm

Safe to say that bridgewater traders can go anywhere they want afterwards? Also, I assume that they have their choice among b-schools as well.

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Interview at NYC Broker/Dealer - Worth it?

Kassad's picture
Kassad
      IB
 
(King Kong, 1,194
 
Points)
 on 4/2/12 at 12:15pm
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Hey WSO,

I got a call for a broker/dealer trainee program. It's supposedly heavily involved in equity research, and the company is a solid boutique in NYC (not a scam, as I initially thought).

Is this worth my time? What are the exit opps as a broker? I've searched the forums but most topics are an argument of "I've never done it but I heard it sucks," vs "I've done it and it's great." Is it really a dying industry?

Anyone with experience care to chime in?

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Bottom I-Banking Gigs--Strictly Exit Opps to Nowhere

Banker88's picture
Banker88
      IB
 
 
(King Kong, 1,650
 
Points)
 on 3/5/12 at 5:39pm
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Ok-- so I know that people here are not into ranking the various Wall St banks in regards to overall prestige, but this is a little different. I think a lot of people might find it useful to know how *INDIVIDUAL* groups stack up against one another when it comes to *STRICTLY* getting absolutely nowhere. Therefore, how would you rank the bottom 10 to 15 groups on Wall St in terms of the lack of opportunities post-IBD?

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Operations at a BB firm or investment banking analyst at a small/unknown firm

sportsmike's picture
sportsmike
     
 
(Chimp, 9
 
Points)
 on 2/28/12 at 11:31pm

Operations at a BB firm or investment banking analyst at a small/unknown firm. Which would have better exit opportunities? Which would look better for B-school?

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UBS TMT

jhu123's picture
jhu123
     
 
(Senior Chimp, 17
 
Points)
 on 2/27/12 at 5:44pm

How's exit opps from this group? How does it stack up against Financial Sponsors and M&A?

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WSO is Looking for Campus Reps For Summer/Fall 2013 (and beyond)
<em>Mod note: Best of Bankerella - this was originally posted 10/1/12</em> I occasionally get PMed by people at colleges I’ve never heard of before, asking if they have a shot at IBD. Folks, why IBD? The finance world is broad and varied, and there are a million ways to...
My Biggest Career Mistake to Date: Prestige
This is just fantastic. After sitting through Carl Levin and John McCain spewing a bunch of nonsense about how Apple doesn't pay enough taxes (despite being the #3 taxpaying company in America behind ExxonMobil and Chevron), Rand Paul lit them up about what a travesty it was to blame Apple...
Rand Paul GOES OFF at Apple Hearing
Someone was asking me about this in PM and I wrote a long and detailed reply about what it is like to work in Big 4 and what advice I would give to people thinking about interning / working there. Thought it might be useful for others so my reply is below. Happy to answer any...
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