Trending Content
| +29 | Advice ahead of a pair trade presentation - HF interview | 7 | 5d | |
| +28 | Background check issues | 6 | 11s | |
| +27 | College search for getting into HF | 23 | 1d | |
| +26 | Why are so many people here interested in Biotech? | 32 | 2d | |
| +23 | VP HF Lateral To PE | 1 | 4d | |
| +20 | % hit rate on quarters | 14 | 13h | |
| +19 | How to approach Consumer L/S ideas | 6 | 4h | |
| +19 | Drunk Thought: Shouldnt PM's at MM inverse their Portfolio's? | 6 | 4d | |
| +17 | Is fundamental L/S equity a dying strategy? | 16 | 5s | |
| +17 | How to learn more about Cyclicals? | 6 | 1d |
Career Resources
They're down 10% the last four quarters, don't know how accurate WhaleWisdom is though. Their portfolio, at least what they report on 13f seems like it's in line with the S&P500 in performance. Don’t know much else about them except their founder is a billionaire.
Wrong. They held up well. You can’t use public longs available on whale wisdom and extrapolate that to the entire fund’s performance for the year. Had a few great merger arb bets (ie TWTR), and let’s not forget 2 things: 1. They have $10-15bn of US long equity exposure vs $40-50bn of AUM, so you’re completely ignoring other strategies like credit. And 2 you’re ignoring the short side (they’re good short sellers too) and international names
Found the guy who actually works at Farallon Haha
looks like they were up last year
https://www.forbes.com/sites/hanktucker/2023/01/22/citadels-16-billion-…
They were basically the first ever multi-strat fund / invented the model. Today they’re 1 of maybe 3 or 4 huge multi strat players, probably the best and most reputable. Can’t really comment on the private side, but they’re fantastic public mkt investors. Rare case today where you have huge scale ($40-50bn I believe) and great investors.
Know a few folks in their L/S / event equity businesses who are extremely bright. Very well ran shop, great culture, great DNA with Tom Steyer. When you think of great remaining event equity shops, Farallon has to be very close to the top if not the top. I think if you ask any sr person the consensus is the same. Excellent fund
Hey man, appreciate the insights. Can you possibly PM me? I'm joining a different event/multi strat fund and would love to chat. Thanks!
Do you have any idea on comp at the senior(pm/partner) levels?
Their senior IR guys live in 10mm houses up in Marin. I’d think as a PM you’d be doing okay.
Just curious - who would you consider the other top 2-3 multi-strat players?
Work in the event space and they’re top tier in the event equities / merger arb world. Would bucket them with the likes of DK but they’re definitely better in my opinion. Only thing is I think they’re run out of SF which kind of sucks
Hey can you PM me? Joining an event fund soon, would love some insight since I'm a complete newbie when it comes to that world of investing
Bump - does this firm have the same cachet as a tiger cub despite not being one? My impression is that tiger cubs = Ivies, so all of them are good but not all good funds HAVE to be a tiger cub. This seems like one of the good rare non-tiger funds which is like Stanford/MIT?
For the love of Christ will you people stop comparing every hedge fund to Tiger Cubs!
This is like asking which is better, beef wellington or sushi? Totally different target audience, preparation, flavor profiles, cook times, and sourcing. They do not have remotely comparable strategies, offer completely different products to their LPs, and require wholly different skillsets to execute.
I think it’s an okay comparison. Outside of the good tiger cubs, I think Elliott, Soroban, Third Pt, Baupost, Farallon, Pershing and then a handful of 1. Smaller SMs and 2. Good LOs are top funds. So maybe 10-20 great funds similar to Top 20 School concept
Is LS equity all event driven? If not, how are they set up (pod shop like)? Do they run LS equity outside the US?
Not sure about LS Equity but event equities is global and they have a team in Europe as well looking at arb.
Is event driven separate from LS equity? What exactly do they do in event, only arb?
-
Is the event equity strategy more active/activist or passive (i.e Merger arb, legal, etc.,)? Do the Merger Arb teams also do L/S equity and are analysts sector specific or do they work across the equity strategy?
bump
Thoughts on their RE group?
its a separate fund from my understanding, flagship only does l/s, credit and risk arb. wouldnt expect separate acquisitions/management teams just because of size of team + fund
Ea sunt vel quibusdam omnis doloribus rerum. Molestias voluptates et aut. Debitis eligendi iure est provident voluptatem velit odit aspernatur. Ut voluptatibus qui hic.
See All Comments - 100% Free
WSO depends on everyone being able to pitch in when they know something. Unlock with your email and get bonus: 6 financial modeling lessons free ($199 value)
or Unlock with your social account...
Vitae adipisci rem reprehenderit ut voluptatem excepturi necessitatibus. Cumque aut odit repellendus debitis sequi doloribus nesciunt. Voluptatem sit modi pariatur.
A unde veniam voluptas reprehenderit quia veniam eaque. Corrupti nisi aut impedit quo deleniti ea molestias.
Dolorem velit voluptatum autem. Optio quas aut ut consequatur nostrum quaerat veniam. Aperiam soluta vel excepturi molestias saepe architecto. Distinctio autem tempora dolor sequi eum aperiam. Sunt officiis velit perspiciatis non voluptatem vel deserunt.