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POV Prestige rankings (but not really)
I turned down a firm in 2a for a firm in 3, think this list is just prestige
Prob looks directionally similar but some slight nuances based on culture etc
Does Bain belong in tier 1, or is it a step below?
It is very difficult for me to fathom a world in which Carlyle is tier 1 and Bain isn’t
Agree with above. Carlyle is a shell of what it used to be and Bain is doing well. Nobody in their right mind would take a Carlyle offer over a Bain one 😂
Given current trajectory, definitely a better offer than Carlyle and arguably TPG
Don't think Carlyle belongs above the heavy hitters in 2a like Warburg, Advent, CD&R etc.
^^this list already became laughable with Carlyle at 1a ... nobody in their right mind is taking Carlyle over any of those other Tier 1 shops, and a good amount of those Tier 2as
Think Ares belongs a little higher
Back to the IB forum with your rankings
This is just a prestige ranking :( Let’s be honest, any solid MM firm is a offer that you are lucky to have. Few college students land IB offers and even fewer move on to PE. It’s not bad to shoot for highly regarded firms but selecting solely based on prestige will not make you any happier or more fulfilled. If it does that kinda sad.
Lol when did Butterfly become mediocre? I heard their returns are phenomenal
Oh wait, I see Analyst 1 made this list. Sorry, idk why I thought it came from a better thought leader
Is it just me or are many of those T2a offers more attractive than some of the T1 offers (specifically TPG, Carlyle, SLP)
correct
lol this is a really, really bad list, a lot of the funds you have rated highly are doing poorly, have succession issues, have terrible culture etc. On the flip side many you’ve put in the bottom rung are actually quite solid shops with great momentum where you’d get a good associate experience with upward mobility.
Meg…who let you back in the house?
Damn I wish I was in OPs shoes where Oaktree is considered mediocre lol
Why is HarbourVest even in this list?
Their main strategy is secondaries, and they're top at it.
This is literally speculative garbage from someone who has never done the job of PE and is making up shit based on what he’s read online and doesn’t understand. If you make decisions and view the world this way you are at best low IQ and more likely an insecure low self esteem twat whose entire self worth is based on implied prestige that quite literally no one else cares about or is aware of.
Please delete this and spend 2-3 years minimum in private equity before you attempt to rewrite this.
I feel like MFs are becoming increasingly unattractive
Why would I sign up to work more hours for marginally higher pay than a solid MM?
Assuming the intention is to build a career in PE, you can't really rank PE firms like you would for IB where the focus was on deal flow / exit opps. A few non-prestige factors the should play a role in the decision making process:
1) Career Track: Will they kick you out in 2-3 years or does the firm have a history of internal mobility? If you want to do an MBA, will they let you come back? If not, will they send you to H/S so you have a chance to return to a similar caliber firm? I would rather go to a Tier 2b fund with a better chance of making it to VP/Principal vs. start at a Tier 1c that will kick me out in 2 years and where all the associates historically end up at a Tier 3 for their VP years.
2) Fund Trajectory: Assuming it's not a 2 and out program, do they have strong returns and are they raising bigger funds? Where do you believe this fund will be in the medium / long term? The place growing rapidly is going to have more opportunity for you vs. a place like GGC that has the history/pedigree but not an ideal spot to build your career at this point.
The only real benefit for prestige is exit opportunities, assuming you are qualified for the role. Literally everything else - hours, comp, experience - are not that simple to rank.
this is the stupidest post
It seems like you've spent more time on WSO than you have on the desk. Try again in a few years?
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