Waterfall/Promote Nuance

Hey WSO - I'm spending some time learning how to model waterfalls and I have come across two different approaches for calculating LP interest per tier/hurdle based on various promote %'s.

Can someone help explain the difference between the below examples?

Example A:
Assume 90%/10% LP/GP Split
Tier 1: Pro-rata up to some preferred return
Tier 2: 10% Promote up to X% IRR
LP Interest in Tier 2 = (90% - 10%) = 80%, such that 80% is used in the MIN/MAX function for the LP's distribution at the respective tier

Example B:
Assume 90%/10% LP/GP Split
Tier 1: Pro-rata up to some preferred return
Tier 2: 10% Promote up to X% IRR
LP Interest in Tier 2 = 1-([GP's Initial 10%]+[LP's Initial 90%]*10%) = 72%, such that 72% is used in the MIN/MAX function for the LP's distribution at the respective tier

Thank you!

 
Most Helpful

The correct methodology for promoted interest is shown below. Alternatively, what we do is utilize a simple cash flow split so there is no confusion about profit CF distributions.

Promote: Tier 1: 90%/10% LP/GP pari passu Capital Return and Preferred Return CF distribution Tier 2 (1): (90%-(90%*10%)) = 81%/19% LP/GP CF split up to X% IRR

(1) LP is promoted 10% of all cash flows after pari passu Capital Return and Preferred Return up to X% IRR meaning the LP gives 10% of 90% (9%) of their base capital split to GP

CF Split Tier 1: 90%/10% LP/GP pari passu Capital Return and Preferred Return CF distribution Tier 2: 80%/20% LP/GP CF split up to X% IRR

 
1st Year Associate in Real Estate - Commercial :
Isn't the GP promoted such that LP gives 10% of their 90% interest (9%) to the GP?

So that the GP is contributing essentially 1% of the equity? Doubtful. InVinoVeritas has it right. Technically you can structure a promote waterfall however you want, but that is the most common way by far, in my experience.

 

Yeah I always find it helpful to think of it as the more formal "promoted interest" rather than a simple promote. As in, the interest is being promoted off of the LP. Makes it slightly less confusing.

 

Qui pariatur impedit consequatur et est nostrum veniam. Nisi laborum voluptas et exercitationem enim. Eos quasi dolorum magnam unde voluptatem quaerat repellendus.

Qui eum illo ipsam vero vel. Sequi nesciunt est autem consequatur enim. Id est nihil illum non delectus perspiciatis qui.

Quasi occaecati vel quia modi sunt magnam. Possimus qui magni magni qui fugit consequuntur. Hic in aliquid odio.

Career Advancement Opportunities

June 2024 Investment Banking

  • Jefferies & Company 02 99.4%
  • Perella Weinberg Partners New 98.9%
  • Lazard Freres 01 98.3%
  • Harris Williams & Co. 24 97.7%
  • Goldman Sachs 17 97.1%

Overall Employee Satisfaction

June 2024 Investment Banking

  • Harris Williams & Co. 18 99.4%
  • JPMorgan Chase 10 98.9%
  • Lazard Freres 05 98.3%
  • Morgan Stanley 05 97.7%
  • Moelis & Company 01 97.1%

Professional Growth Opportunities

June 2024 Investment Banking

  • Lazard Freres 01 99.4%
  • Jefferies & Company 02 98.9%
  • Perella Weinberg Partners 18 98.3%
  • Goldman Sachs 16 97.7%
  • Moelis & Company 05 97.1%

Total Avg Compensation

June 2024 Investment Banking

  • Director/MD (5) $648
  • Vice President (22) $375
  • Associates (92) $259
  • 3rd+ Year Analyst (14) $181
  • Intern/Summer Associate (33) $170
  • 2nd Year Analyst (69) $168
  • 1st Year Analyst (206) $159
  • Intern/Summer Analyst (149) $101
notes
16 IB Interviews Notes

“... there’s no excuse to not take advantage of the resources out there available to you. Best value for your $ are the...”

Leaderboard

success
From 10 rejections to 1 dream investment banking internship

“... I believe it was the single biggest reason why I ended up with an offer...”