Strategic Finance/FP&A vs HF Analyst

Current buysider here wondering if anyone has thought about the corporate move from a HF. I think IR is a bit too boring, more just a talking head, but more and more considering if a move to FP&A/Strategic Finance makes sense. Seems like you can make decent money (no 7 figures I get that) in that type of role, seems like actually building something and helping set corporate strategy, all while doing the modeling & planning that is similar to what I try to do in my current role with much less info. Curious if anyone has ever made a move, any idea of base + bonus (guessing just equity)? Worst case you can always move back to a buyside role (probably with desirable corporate experience)? 

 

This is factually incorrect. Good FP&A is the growth engine of any company: https://www.cfosecrets.io/p/fpa-cycle

Operating roles require a vastly dissimilar skillset than what is honed in high finance. If you're looking for a new challenge with less of the wlb sacrifices that come with buyside - I highly recommend operational finance roles 

 

Operating roles require a vastly dissimilar skillset than what is honed in high finance

Please tell me what you think this vastly dissimilar skillset is. I have sat in both seats and my opinion is that virtually all "high finance" (assume you mean IBD/HF) folks can do "operating finance" if they wanted to, but definitely not vice versa.

 

I did this for a bit, AMA

Curious if anyone has ever made a move, any idea of base + bonus (guessing just equity)?

Depends on what level you come in at. Analyst ~100k base, Snr Analyst ~125k base, Manager ~150k base, Snr Manager ~175k base, Director ~200k base, VP 225k base and up. These tend to be pretty consistent across large corporates and tech startups from job postings I see, although large corporates sometimes skew lower.

The following is startup-specific:

Annual cash bonus typically 10-20% of base. Not much opportunity for variation here, this is not how you get paid.

Sign on equity was 100% of starting base, vesting over 4 years. You get annual stock grants as well but I stopped paying attention to how much because equity was so far underwater it was practically worthless.

Worst case you can always move back to a buyside role (probably with desirable corporate experience)? 

Haha. It's a hard trek, but doable. Would not recommend. It's a more stable life but soul crushing. Recommend only if you're at a stage of life where you are raising a family and need stability (but in that case highly recommend you go LO instead).

 

Totally different roles and career paths. I know people who do this and are near “director level” some notches below the CFO. TC wise is $200-250k and perks/stock/bonus $300k or so. Some have spouses doing like cpg marketing (assume $150k for a brand role), so that is $400-$500 all in for a couple who probably just started a family mid 30s.

Now funny thing, yes its a bitch role and engineers run the firm but historically these teams run very lean be it at the CPG firms, GE back in the day and now some of the top tech firms. Cause the people they hire at the top are former banker types who know one person can do much more than 9-5 so they run efficient and lean. For this reason last year the bulk of layoffs was in “product management” and other mid-level tech roles and finance teams were safe. 
So decent comp, way better lifestyle and probably safe careerwise longterm. That all said you are given “bitchwork” and a lot of it is utterly boring vs working at a HF in a super fast paced environment. 

 
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I made the move so I can answer this question. Was laid off after 6-8 years on the buyside (my first job after college), and joined the FP&A team at a tech company. I make $150K + bonus/equity (but this part is small). Overall, I work ~40 hours a week Monday through Friday, some times more or less depending on special projects and other deadlines. To be honest, it was hard to make this transition since stock picking isn’t exactly very transferable. However, I was lucky because this role required heavy modeling in a specific sector, and I was quite experienced in that, so I was able to tell a compelling story here. It was also quite challenging to tell my interviewers why I was leaving the buyside. I was trying to show them that this job wasn’t just a resume filler after being laid off. I guess they bought in. 

 

Hey pizz, glad to see you've made the transition. What are the other common exits for those who are leaving public equities and want to work 50hrs a week or less?

FP&A at a tech firm sounds pretty nice, how happy are you with the role? What does the day to day look like? Are you remote or hybrid? 

Also what kind of city are you in? I guess ~180k or so all in doesn't go very far in NYC / SF, but if you're in a place like Chicago or Tampa that will go a much longer way

Congrats again man, I know you were pretty sick of the buy-side life. You're in your late 20s, plenty of time left to have fun / find a nice girl / etc. Best of luck 

 

Check out ID.me, they have a few exHF ppl running finance. I’d look for companies with a lot of PE/HF ppl in their finance roles and or measure your ability to build a connection with execs that are well respected within the industry.

 

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