Project Finance Bankers - Variations in Modelling

Curious as to how much modelling work is done by PF bankers in different banks. I know that some build models from scratch for most deals, some only do it when they're the MLAs. For PF bankers currently on the job, what's your bank's approach to each deal/project?

 

75% sure this is SMBC or one of those international banks lol. Not to hijack the thread - but past a certain point, how repetitive and unintellectual does it get if you're just running sensitivities on pre-baked models?

 
Most Helpful

75% sure this is SMBC or one of those international banks lol. Not to hijack the thread - but past a certain point, how repetitive and unintellectual does it get if you're just running sensitivities on pre-baked models?

Hahaha yeah one of those international ones - we still get mandates in an advisory capacity albeit it isn't our main source of profitability. On these, we do modelling ourselves (juniors)...they aren't that hard once you get the hang of it - also note that PF mandates have a longer timeline than M&A.

Depends what you view intellectual capacity as...advisors take an equity perspective (trying to provide as much upside) whilst lenders take a risk perspective (understanding the flaws of a deal). I think that obviously the learning curve as an advisor is much steeper given you are delivering and producing material related to the financial and commercial aspects of a deal whilst lenders only really need to be focused on evaluating these parts.

From my perspective, the credit process is repetitive but still mentally stimulating as you need to understand the structure and mechanics of the deal to determine whether or not the deal is worth the risk. Its not a simple matter of saying "Oh, its a Windfarm, lets finance this because its the trend". You have to consistently think when reading contracts, reports and documents behind what terms or clauses could cause detriment to the deal which is something I find interesting. And then even after that, each bank has their own credit process meaning you'll have to justify why you want to put millions of $$$ into the deal to other people - which also means that you're not only thinking about the deal but how to market it as a safe investment.

Obviously you'll earn less compared to an Advisory/IB role (same base but probably half their bonus - which is still bloody good) but your WLB and pressures you have to deal with are so much better.

I honestly see the upside going into a pure advisory role but you shouldn't count out working at a lender (only for PF).

 

On deals where we are the Coordinating Lead Arranger, we will typically add a couple debt sizing and sensitivity tabs to the borrower's project model. Those tabs are based on a template that we use for each deal. Depending on the type of project there may be some variability in certain revenue and opex line items, but generally pretty similar deal to deal.

 

Laudantium beatae deserunt quod deleniti est. Ut adipisci nisi temporibus sunt earum iusto qui. Quidem pariatur sit dolor qui aut possimus porro. Ex quas harum voluptas voluptas et et. Aut adipisci rerum vitae sint ea sint non. Id tenetur quis dolores quia beatae repudiandae accusantium.

Commodi praesentium minus quia consectetur saepe fugit sapiente. Non nihil maxime id provident voluptas. Deserunt quia quam pariatur harum quos voluptatem non. Eligendi cum repellat molestiae aliquam. Facilis est quia qui dolorum culpa.

Similique odio adipisci rerum qui deserunt officia. Harum ducimus in molestiae possimus. Repudiandae qui corrupti ut laborum mollitia. Quam dicta magnam est non. Ea reiciendis dicta facere sed. Et ipsum quis doloremque. Aspernatur ut aut voluptatem nostrum accusamus autem.

In esse odit consectetur adipisci quam excepturi odio. Quisquam aut reiciendis ut quis doloremque nisi. Ut vel tempora ex rerum. Rerum facere maiores exercitationem quasi. Sequi cumque dolorem aliquam dolorem consequatur temporibus dolorem quo. Sint aliquid aut ipsum illum. Sint quasi et aut id.

Career Advancement Opportunities

May 2024 Investment Banking

  • Jefferies & Company 02 99.4%
  • Lazard Freres No 98.8%
  • Harris Williams & Co. 25 98.3%
  • Goldman Sachs 17 97.7%
  • JPMorgan Chase 04 97.1%

Overall Employee Satisfaction

May 2024 Investment Banking

  • Harris Williams & Co. 18 99.4%
  • JPMorgan Chase 10 98.8%
  • Lazard Freres 05 98.3%
  • Morgan Stanley 07 97.7%
  • William Blair 03 97.1%

Professional Growth Opportunities

May 2024 Investment Banking

  • Lazard Freres 01 99.4%
  • Jefferies & Company 02 98.8%
  • Goldman Sachs 17 98.3%
  • Moelis & Company 07 97.7%
  • JPMorgan Chase 05 97.1%

Total Avg Compensation

May 2024 Investment Banking

  • Director/MD (5) $648
  • Vice President (21) $373
  • Associates (91) $259
  • 3rd+ Year Analyst (14) $181
  • Intern/Summer Associate (33) $170
  • 2nd Year Analyst (68) $168
  • 1st Year Analyst (205) $159
  • Intern/Summer Analyst (146) $101
notes
16 IB Interviews Notes

“... there’s no excuse to not take advantage of the resources out there available to you. Best value for your $ are the...”

Leaderboard

1
redever's picture
redever
99.2
2
BankonBanking's picture
BankonBanking
99.0
3
Betsy Massar's picture
Betsy Massar
99.0
4
Secyh62's picture
Secyh62
99.0
5
GameTheory's picture
GameTheory
98.9
6
CompBanker's picture
CompBanker
98.9
7
dosk17's picture
dosk17
98.9
8
kanon's picture
kanon
98.9
9
Linda Abraham's picture
Linda Abraham
98.8
10
bolo up's picture
bolo up
98.8
success
From 10 rejections to 1 dream investment banking internship

“... I believe it was the single biggest reason why I ended up with an offer...”