wtf am I doing
anyone else feel like they have no idea what the heck is going on with their life directionally? I know this type of high finance is not the most healthy, but I have no idea what I want to pivot into that I might as well just stay.
Additionally, I have no idea what type of lifestyle I want to seek for myself. Pursing a career in high finance leads into a social circle of such wealthy and honestly pretty toxic community. While being rich seems nice and all, sometimes I just want simplicity and happiness. Still, the lifestyle still seems really tempting and i have no idea which direction to follow. How do I even begin to figure all this out?
LSD and/or shrooms will show you the way
What about codeine?
Yeah, because the dirty hippies making grilled cheese sandwiches in the parking lot at a grateful dead concert are soooo enlightened
I’ve done so much so much since joining IB, with micro doses every morning
Yo I found my long lost brother
Could you elaborate on how toxic this community is? I’m a college student and about to start my IB gig. Very curious.
focus exclusively on status / wealth. Ranking system makes everything a competition instead of collaboration. Constantly belittling people in the name of "jokes" calling people poor, fat, ugly ect.
Damn drop the name of the banks do you guys work for, genuinely can't believe people talk like that. At my firm everyone is literally stereotypically PC and I don't even think I've heard anyone swear before. Not saying I like it like that i'm just surprised there could be such a sharp contrast between firms.
edit: I just realised I'm black and I guess thats why everyone is squeaky clean around me
Will be joining a "top BB", I hope this is not the culture ther
I can't help you on how to figure it out (I haven't either) but I share your feeling about people like this. These are the type of ppl that will also always talk shit behind everyone's back, the biggest pussies who look like they live in a bubble
Damn I was at Credit Suisse and this description matches my analyst class 100%. For those wondering: the analysts were constantly arguing who was richer, which people/banks made the most money, they were insulting people at MBB / Big 4, calling others "poor", "weak", "fat" and worse
feeling this one right now, really hoping some dope tech role somehow falls in my lap but unsure how to get there. I don't want to sacrifice the lifestyle but this work is simply not enjoyable.
Whenever I feel lost, I ask myself what I want out of my life. I do not believe in reincarnation, afterlife or a higher order being, so this is my only chance to make some impact in this world. For you that could be making an impact in finance or just being wealthy. We all have different desires and level of expectations with ourselves, so you should consider asking yourself what would truly make you happy when you are lying on your deathbed and look back at what you have done. Hopefully that shows you some direction.
Go to therapy man
About the high finance culture: I once interviewed at this HF where they liked my application (several tasks to do before interview) and I got the interview (which apparently only <1% got). I have to say I didn't prepare properly for the interview (because of several reasons, but obviously could have done better), but everything was professional until I met with one of the Partners who looked down on me. He looked at me only twice and loved talking about how intelligent and how great (risk-adjusted) returns they had. It felt like I was judged (I am pretty sure it was because of my background) and treated accordingly in less than 1 minute. At the end I asked some questions which he didn't expect and was shocked about me asking that (it wasn't a smart finance related question but it still made him think for some time).
I hope all these rich arrogant mfs lose everything.
What question did you ask?
"Do you like it in the a**?"
It was something like what do you like about x, and then it pivoted to how that has had a positive impact in "society" (not really, but you have to boost their egos). Don't get me wrong he still is a dickhead but I knew the only way to reverse the shit show was to try to get him to like me (which didn't work but he ended with a different opinion, slightly better, about me)
Improve some aspect of yourself that you don’t like. That should make you feel better.
But then try not to focus too much on yourself and your wants - help someone else, be a better friend, volunteer, something like that. For me, Christianity helps.
Hey OP, really feel for you - not sure if it helps to say this, but as a single 32yr old guy in PE (previously IB) I feel exactly the same way as you ten years into my career!
As you say it’s a really difficult one - first of all don’t get me wrong, even despite the hours IB/PE is very well paid for the work we do, and I couldn’t imagine what it must be like supporting a family on say $30k a year.
But having said that, I have to warn you - it doesn’t get any easier to exit the lifestyle over time. I think I’m the same as/similar to you, in that I generally enjoy (or at least don’t mind) the job day-to-day, and I’m making $250-300k a year - pretty good compared to most people? Well despite this I still wrest with anxiety and low-level depression (been on medication for a while) as well as the existential questions you raised.
So what do I mean by it doesn’t get any easier? Well although you earn more and (hopefully) have a lot more saved over time, you also get used to having money. And I don’t even mean driving a Lambo and “making it rain” in a club lol - but more just fundamental stuff like always having savings, never worrying about the cost of a meal out or supermarket shop (it’s been years since I looked at prices properly in the supermarket), being able to go on expensive holidays at short notice and stay in 5-star hotels.
So imagine leaving all that behind? I think having experienced it and then going back to budgeting/living modestly would suck more than never having had it at all really (at least imho). Also like you, I want to do something meaningful with my life but have no idea what - also realistically no other industry is going to pay me anywhere near we much, and there are a lot worse/more boring jobs out there tbh.
Sorry that probably doesn’t help you much lol (wish I did have the answers!) - but just know that you’re definitely not alone in this existential angst. Maybe see a therapist as others have suggested? I’ve been meaning to try it out but haven’t worked up the courage yet haha
Fugiat necessitatibus est perferendis eos quia. Porro culpa accusantium eius enim dolores rerum ea. Optio optio recusandae et sed doloremque itaque. Placeat eos est et sed voluptatem voluptatibus.
Doloremque fugit dolores vel qui eum sed. Enim voluptatem sequi reiciendis incidunt est veritatis magni et. Eum cupiditate accusantium voluptas sed at odio natus. Quae in dolor molestiae sit velit. Laudantium sit totam corrupti molestiae nesciunt harum. Consectetur asperiores laboriosam quo id. Sint dignissimos temporibus molestiae dolorum dolorem officia inventore et.
Earum minus et dolor consequatur. Est voluptas voluptatibus debitis repudiandae dicta dolore. Praesentium et corporis minima assumenda molestiae libero. Cupiditate eum qui adipisci sed ut. Quo rerum autem similique.
Est repudiandae earum quod officia est qui. Nobis nemo similique aut enim. Quo occaecati qui voluptatem.
See All Comments - 100% Free
WSO depends on everyone being able to pitch in when they know something. Unlock with your email and get bonus: 6 financial modeling lessons free ($199 value)
or Unlock with your social account...
Dolor ut culpa dolores et odit qui voluptatum. Dolorem illum ut nobis vitae rem officiis. Quia ab architecto maiores tenetur.
Voluptas et natus optio soluta et rerum. Nam numquam dolor facilis et qui optio aspernatur. Cum dolorem illum doloremque id voluptas.
Et accusamus aut saepe ab quis molestiae. Aut nihil illo nobis dignissimos rerum tempore eum. Dolores officiis ut nam iste excepturi consequatur neque sed. Quo ducimus et voluptas reprehenderit et. Doloremque vitae totam aut eveniet nobis dolor.