2020 Election Results Discussion
I figured a lot of people are going to want to discuss and comment on the results, so here's a thread to keep it one place.
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Anxiety going through the roof
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Wouldn’t it be funny if Trump wins the popular vote and loses the electoral college? I can see that happening.
I mean, it would be ironic, but there is zero chance Trump wins the popular vote. FiveThirtyEight has him at about a 10% chance of winning the electoral college, which is much higher than zero.
He's currently winning the popular vote, but you do you, keep believing the main stream media and polls and then have your mind melt when reality hits you in the face
If somehow trump wins I am seriously concerned for the future of the US
Oh shut up with that nonsense.
You are going to have to tell a lot of people to shut up.
If Trump loses, I am seriously concerned for the future of the US.
Facts, I don't understand people in high finance who vote blue
It's exciting, and nerve racking. Not because of who'll win, but because of what might happen after it's over.
Honestly if Trump wins I’m expecting riots. If Biden wins, I don’t expect any violence. The worst that will happen is a few people marching in protest on the streets and the media pointing at them saying “Look at those racists.”
I mean, Trump supporters already tried to kidnap a sitting US governor, shut down streets and tried to run a campaign bus off their road with their lifted pickup trucks, and think Trump is a messianic figure fighting a secret cabal of people who molest and then eat children. I wouldn't put isolated violence in the event of a Biden win out of the question, just like I wouldn't put broken storefronts stemming from marches that devolve into riots out of the question if Trump wins.
Just cast my vote for Trump in a swing state. 4 more years baby lets see it!
KAMALA HARRIS WILL NEVER BE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES! MAGA 2020!!!!!
EDIT: DIDN'T REALZIE THERE WERE SO MANY COMMIES ON THIS FORUM.
Is it really so hard to just say "I voted for Trump" or "I voted for Trump because of x, y, an z?"
Why do full on MAGA people always have to be so obnoxious?
Because they are a bunch of tough guys trying to act like their leader.
I voted for Trump because I think Biden is a closted homosexual and Kamala is controlling him. Read some QAnon for the truth, no need for all that white guilt.
Because the steaming pile of shit that remains of the republican party has become the troll party. While operators like Mitch McConnell create policy favoring their corporate overlords, they send the masses and court jesters like Jim Jordan out to troll.
lefties are scared to go outside. that's why they have to work themselves up into a frenzy to get out and vote
Kanye 2020
OH NONONONONO BIDENBROS WE GOT TOO COCKY
In a swing state and voted for Trump but not the end of the world if Biden wins, he’s still a corporate shill democrat and not a Sanders/Warren commie. Although I doubt he’d serve the full term and we’d have to see what the party tells Harris to believe in. At least we have constitutionalists on the court, assuming they don’t try packing.
Don't know you but this is how I feel about all trump voters so: fuck you
Get some fresh air, intern. Or go back to reddit.
He does not talk about it much, but I would estimate that there would be 99.5% chance that Biden wins the election, he would pack the SCOTUS. With the crap that Kermit and his crew pulled, they should pack the courts.
Couldn’t disagree with this more. Plus Trump’s Supreme Court appointees aren’t Ivanka and Jared. They do not march in step with his priorities. If every time the political parties get control of all branches of govt they pack the courts, we will eventually have more supreme court justices than Senators.
Eh that would be such a short-sighted, emotional reaction. All packing the court would do is ensure that republicans respond similarly when they’re back in power. There’s no way Biden is that dumb.
Yeah that’s the problem. If Biden wins they will try to pack the court. Also Harris will become the most liberal president in history.
You forgot FDR.
FDR practically made the US into a socialist country we now have. (YES, US by definition is socialist because the government spends about 40% of the GDP. If you add direct control over, it's nearly 50%).
Government control over the distribution of resources? Def a socialist.
These comments have got to be some of the worst trolling I've ever seen.
Double posted. Wso on phone sucks.
Great, another cesspool devoid of critical thinking.
Let's face it. If Trump loses, the Republican nominee for 2024 is going to shit on Trump so much and 99.99% of you diehard Trump fans will be kissing his ass (I guess it could be a she).
If Biden loses, then 99.99% of you Biden supporters will turn Republican in 2024 because Warren is going to be the 2024 Democratic nominee (Sanders probably won't live through it, pre-emptive RIP) but that won't be enough to stop a Blue wave all over the places and we'll have the most leftist admin and Congress since FDR during 2024-2032.
Would Biden winning really change the 2024 DNC nominee? Assuming Harris hasn't replaced him already, he'll be 81...
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Biden bros will have no idea what's going to hit them tonight. Silent majority that y'all forgot about, just like in 2016, is gonna carry Trump to another term. Just wait. People have been going out in droves to vote...specifically in red counties. Can also guarantee y'all are gonna be shocked when we see Trump win PA with minorities in Philly carrying him.
You are living in fantasy land if you think Trump is going to get the black vote.
Or that Trump voters are in any way silent about anything.
Loud minority more like it.
Really hard to estimate the final result, but a few curveballs which I think people are underestimating the effect of:
It will probably be close, and it's unlikely the Democrat party will respect the result if Trump wins today. Also unclear if Republican voters will respect the result if the media say Trump loses. Unfortunately the media have spent the last 4 years discrediting themselves so...
The difference in the crowds that Trump pulls all around the country vs Biden's seemingly dead campaigning, and that >90% Republican approval rating makes me think it's probably slightly leaning towards the incumbent... either way expect fireworks and long vix.
Agreed
Anyone notice how the Biden supporters in this thread are being extra toxic tonight?
I bet you guys are hankering for a good riot aren’t you?
Maybe because not all of us have privilege??
A lot of Trump supporters are rural types who do not have privilege...
Assuming your profile is correct and you’re indeed a first year IBD analyst, you are privileged.
This is way tighter than any of the polls predicted
Yeah looking crazy disconnected from the polls like 2016. Dem commentators are having flashbacks to their coverage of 2016.
Still too early to call it one way or another so just have to wait and see. Blue collar voters in the Midwest will likely determine this for 2020 just like 2016.
Yep. We're watching the death of the polling industry in real time.
No matter what the result, to be honest. Trump win, Biden win - polls were flat out wrong.
Two cycles in a row.
I think one of the biggest takeaways is polls have massive margins of error making them almost useless when it comes to issues where your opinion is unpopular
Dr. Fauci is probably cussing like a mother fucker right now watching the coverage. Which, frankly, he would make a lot more $ doing like Scott Gottlieb being on the board of several companies and being a medical contributor on news networks. Plus he’s at the end of his natural lifespan so he could probably use less stress.
As of right now, it seems as if Trump is going to win. He's secured many of the swing states.
Thoughts?
As of right now (almost 11pm EST), Trump hasn't won any state that he wasn't already expected to win. Florida, Ohio, Georgia, etc. were always going to be Trump states. This will come down to Michigan, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and maybe NC, Arizona, and/or Nevada and we will not know a number of these states tonight - particularly Pennsylvania, which won't even start counting most mail in ballots until tomorrow.
What tonight has shown is that polls pointing to a potential landslide, like Biden winning Florida, were comically wrong.
I think a concerning thing for the Biden campaign has to be that for example around Atlanta, they were saying black turnout was lower than anticipated. If that holds true in the rust belt it can’t be a good thing for Biden.
Fox just called Arizona for Biden. First result that's different than 2016.
Im still seeing 0 votes for Nevada. Is that same for you all as well?
Edit: Meant to respond to OP glitched out
Yeah I watched an interview about how people are still lined up in Nevada waiting to vote. Doubt we know that one for a bit.
It's about midnight though, and it's not looking like we'll know much before Friday, so I'm heading out.
I’m seeing the same thing
Lindsey Graham kept his seat! Does the LGBT community ever stop winning?
Trump declares victory.
Sorry wrong map.
How spooky, now do death rates.
Don't sleep on Georgia either...
If I had to put money on it, Biden wins the Presidency while Republicans keep the Senate.
Same
Idk looking like a Trump win. But close for Biden.
these ballots are being harvested by the democrats communist. the poll watcher is by majority a bunch of idiot liberal that was paid to change or throw away trump ballots, is fucking outrageous. they need to take in charging these sons of bitches with high treason with 10+ years of imprisonment for doing shit like that. this dishonesty is sickening, last time i check we didn't live in a communist country
TRUMP 2Q2Q
Ok, dumbass
Get ready PA. You are going to be hearing the name Josh Shapiro a lot.
Hanging chads strike again and claim another victim!
And I suppose you prefer to suppress the vote?
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Day 2!
They are both idiots. Hopefully in 2024 we can have a socially moderate, fiscally conservative candidate.
https://twitter.com/Redistrict/status/1323976110510657539
Edit: I guess WSO doesn't do twitter previews anymore. From Dave Wasserman, the best in the business:
"So two things: 1) Biden is well on his way to flipping MI & WI (in addition to AZ & #NE02) and is doing well enough in PA's completed counties to be on track to win there 2) Polls (esp. at district-level) have rarely led us more astray & it's going to take a long time to unpack"
Biden will likely win AZ, MI, WI, and NV and wrap this up before PA is done counting. Florida is basically a red state now.
Yeah looking like Biden has this one. Big winner of the day - Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, who will have the honor of frustrating another Democrat President, and who has a Supreme Court he helped pick a lot of to help back him up.
Congrats, Mitch!
Beyond that, this should be the absolute best possible outcome for WSO - an infinitely more stable president and executive branch with a check in the senate on any "far left" proposals they're afraid of.
So far, Pyrrhic victory for Biden and Never-Trump ''Republicans'', comic debacle for the media and pollsters. Likely to get challenged and drag for months. Sticking to the current scenario, it'd be 4 years of mostly stalemate while China keeps eroding US power around the world and the trend of decline continues.
Still less terrifying than woke liberals really. How's that Uyghur Muslim genocide going?
Months? I doubt it. But yes it'll be a sad day for American politics if Trump doesn't concede if he loses. But we already knew he wouldn't.
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