Redefining Prestige
Tech and non tier 1 Mount Olympus EB IBD is not prestigious. IBD is not what it was in the 80s, and tech was NEVER prestigious. You are neither management, nor revenue generating, not client facing in tech. You are all 3 in most high finance roles.
Medicine is not prestigious. You are merely a well trained robot that can do surgery/diagnose diseases.
Law is not prestigious. Your degree is far more prestigious than working in law. A JD from Yale is prestigious, being a partner at Kirkland & Ellis or whatever is not. Lawyers make far too little to be prestigious.
MBB is prestigious to an extent, but not to the extent of PJT/CVP/KKR/APO.
Hedge funds are not prestigious. Facing clients, managing a group and generating revenue through social tact and macro strategy is more prestigious than being the equivalent of a human calculator in some boiler room.
The only prestigious shops left in 2021 are the following (ranked in order):
APO
PJT
CVP
KKR
If you're not at one of the holy four, shut up about prestige, as you have none. If you're making under 40 million at any of the holy four, you're not prestigious.
If you didn't go to a top of the top undergrad (Wharton, Yale, Dartmouth, USC, Oxford, Cambridge, LSE) you're not prestigious.
If you didn't go to a top of the top business school (W/H/LBS/INSEAD), you're not prestigious Stanford GSB is not as prestigious as H or W.
If you didn't land PE or Mount Olympus EB IBD out of undergrad, you're not prestigious.
If you're not in NYC or London, you're not prestigious.
The number of truly prestigious individuals left who meet all of the above criterias likely number in the low dozens, and I am amongst them.
LSE is too easy to get into to be prestigious IMO. Never heard of USC or Dartmouth either but alright. In London, PJT and CVP are really not that great at all compared to their US counterparts as GS/MS/JPM are considered to be top firms for exits here. Idk who's making 40 million at any of those shops except c-suite execs but whoever is probably deserves the clout.
LSE is actually harder to get into than Oxbridge on average in terms of raw numbers (although Oxbridge self selects).
Carry at APO/KKR can make a lowly MD break 40mm easily. At CVP/PJT even rainmakers won't top 15mm, though
Not true. LSE offer rate higher than both O&C - acceptance rate ends up being lower because of their pathetically low yield (less than 50%, compared to 80-90% at Oxbridge).
+ around 10 year ago LSE rejected me while I got offers from WHYS and some tier 1/2 bschools (Stern, Ross, McDonough, Mendoza) and Cambridge.
ok. The raw numbers argument is moot because people who apply lse also apply oxbridge and you can only apply to either oxford or Cambridge decreasing the individual numbers. There are no admissions tests for LSE or any interviews, by virtue of a more rigorous process Oxbridge (most courses) is more difficult, although the omission of this makes LSE very random - but not necessarily harder. Some of their courses are AAB for god's sake, not even imperial stoops that low lmao.
They didn't like my personal essay thing because I applied for a shit-tier course like Economic History
yeah that just makes you retarded instead of making LSE hard to get into. Competitive courses like economics or PPE then yeah sure school is hard as fuck, but they don't care about extracurriculars, don't use an admissions test and don't interview. Its just a lottery since most applicants will have identical grades and read the same shit.
Huh? I had the equivalent of a A*AA (according to UCL and Imperial's conversion scale), but I was an international. Literally no idea how I got rejected there but got into some US hypertargets (they hate internationals) and one of Oxbridge as well as Imperial. I even heard LSE likes international kids because of the tuition they get.
Being unable to write a PS is quite silly. You did not get into Imperial for the same course LSE rejected you for. You can only have one personal statement, Imperial only offers STEM courses and LSE only offers social sciences. If your personal statement is not entirely dedicated to one course, LSE will reject you. So you're saying you applied to economic history at LSE, which I affirm is very easy to get into, and applied to what at Oxbridge/Imperial? They will not have been linked and your personal statement will have been a mess. Imperial uses admissions tests and interviews for many courses making it more rigorous than LSE's entry standards. Had you made a personal statement that wasn't half retarded and specific to economic history (i.e includes supercurriculars relevant to the course) you'd get an offer. If you spoke about some course imperial offers, like compsci or chemistry, or how you like tennis, you'd get rejected.
What the fuck is a hypertarget? Can lame virgins please stop naming new shit like this literally no one cares? Just go to a good school and recruit; it's that simple.
Where do quants (at Jane Street/Citadel type shops) fall in your analysis?
Math isn't prestigious (All STEM kids aren't).
The "prestigious STEM" is:
Social Sciences
Theatre/Theology (can't decide)
Economics
Management
theology is a humanity, not a social science
STEM will always reign supreme. No one outside of finance or law respects any of those mickey mouse disciplines
Lol @ your username. Apollo doesn't even have VPs
Sir, I think it's "preftige"
Why exactly is LSE being grouped with Oxford and Cambridge? Outside of Econ and Law, LSE is not difficult to get into. And USC is perhaps the biggest part of the joke
Because econ/law/politics are like 95% of LSE's courses?
What are you talking about lmao? I didn't say anything about politics but nice try sneaking it in there as if it is nearly as respected as Law and Econ.
95% of LSE's courses are literally NOT law and econ. There are peripheral, losely-related copycats (eg. econ history) but there are only two REAL Econ and Law courses. not dilutions like geog and econ or any bullshit like that. And courses like Geography literally let you in with AAB (wouldn't be surprised if people had gotten in with lower)
Outside of STRAIGHT Law and STRAIGHT Econ (Maybe Econ and maths), LSE does not belong near the likes of Yale and Oxbridge regarding entry difficulty. Even with law, it's questionable.
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