Multifamily Development Loans - What are you seeing?

I’m a smallish multifamily developer with a few projects under construction and a few more slated to start this year. All garden and all on the east coast. We’ve been able to secure financing for our smallest deal (~$30m) at low 60% LTC with a half decent spread over SOFR. Curious to hear from others in the space what deals (if any) they are seeing get done today. Cheers.

 

If your deal is small enough for a community bank you can still get decent leverage and terms, they will compete for your business if everything checks out.

if it’s bigger than that, it’s going to be a big challenge. The biggest and most sophisticated developers in the game are getting 60% LTC max, even with strong recourse. And pricing is up 100 bps over a year ago. 

 

Stabilized DY is what lenders are looking at now..

Recently got 305 at 65 LTC for 120mm, and 400 bps for 75% at 120mm as well. Great sponsorship tho. 

 

I've seen a few banks quote stuff this low in exchange for deposit business and personal guaranties.  regional banks are very hungry for deposits at the moment.

 

We are getting a few quotes at 275 to 325 over SOFR. Community banks, regional (mid-size) banks, credit unions, and life co’s are in that mix. Recourse and prepayment changes dramatically between groups. Leverage and rate is pretty similar.

Also curious - what are y’all seeing on untrended YOC for the deals getting done or at-least receiving term sheets?

 

Standard recourse with 50% burn down after CO with one or two additional burn downs based on DSCR. No deposits and working with lenders with whom we do not have a relationship.

 

Mid sized regionals and syndications with several small regionals. 50%+ nw to loan amt. How active are the non-fdic lenders today? Have spent zero time exploring that path yet.

 

At a life co lender. We are closing a $60m 60% LTC at +320 with a well know sponsor.

 

DM me. I have a very similar deal in terms of pricing/leverage with a well-known national developer. Their banking relationships are on pause and are looking for alternate options. 

 

Has anyone seen any non-recourse construction loans close in the last 6-8 weeks?

Market seems to be 100% closed. I agree with early posters comments, if you have a <$40m deal there is some small community banks willing to move forward but it seems like once you break the $50m market on project costs... the debt bid list is short appears to be short overall. Now there will always be exceptions for banks willing to do deals for their relationship lending clients or deals with extremely strong sponsorship/guarantees/deposits. 

Also curious if anybody is receiving construction pref/mezz quotes in the current market on institutional MF development deals? What rate, equity kicker req, etc? 

 

In Canada the only viable financing for purpose-built rental construction today is through CMHC's MLI Select program, which offers high leverage, generally 80%+ and up to 95% LTC, and favorable interest rates (Prime +/- 25 on the construction piece and rolls into a perm loan at the rough equivalent of the 5 or 10 year GOC + 100 with 40-50 year amo). In order to qualify for this program, you need to have either a considerable affordable housing component or meet energy efficiency criteria. There is also an accessibility criteria but its unrealistic because it requires something silly like 100% of units to meet extreme accessibility standards.

Even with this, there are almost no markets in which rental development works right now in the country unless you're a pension fund with a 15% target IRR and minimal development spread requirement on ground-up development.

 

I’ve been quoted for 200MM+ loans anywhere from 45-50% by OZK, 45% by banks recourse (S+325), debt fund non recourse 60-65% S+475-550

Almost all banks are talking about 10-25% deposit relationship

 

I know a few shops doing 45-50% LTC loans on 200-300MM deals… ground up multi anchored mixed use… do you have any idea what the strategy is? Do they just have LPs that are OK with less than a 2x return? Am I looking at it wrong? Maybe at the bridge to agency part lever it up and cash out refi to raise leverage?

 

ibuyhomescash

How is the equity making any money at 55% with S+3xx+ paper? Did you put a second position up to 75% or did the senior accept something like PACE? 

I’m questioning how these developers are making any money or how the deals pencil with these numbers. Rents aren’t high enough nor growing fast enough to support the refi/ be able take out all proceeds, will require equity contributions just to get a perm loan. Idk how these sponsors will survive these projects if guaranteed… rents are going negative or flat for at least a couple years in all of these markets, no proforma in this thread is predicting that

 

Second this but will also add hard costs are already starting to come down. We don’t expect a massive drop in pricing but do see more subs bidding on projects than before. Haven’t seen any real competition for projects like this for the last couple of years.

 

SGMultifamily

Second this but will also add hard costs are already starting to come down. We don't expect a massive drop in pricing but do see more subs bidding on projects than before. Haven't seen any real competition for projects like this for the last couple of years.

Con costs down, or just not growing at the same pace? Bids aren’t cheaper today because if materials, it’s the GC realizing what it would take to do the deal today = less profits. That’s not good in the long run, especially if rates stay this level

 

Well if my costs for electrical were $X 6 months ago they are down about 10% from that. Even bigger savings in plumbing. I am close with several of the major subs in my territory. They are pretty open about how good they’ve had it over the last 36 months. I generally hear margins for them were almost double the long term normal.

 
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Well if my costs for electrical were $X 6 months ago they are down about 10% from that. Even bigger savings in plumbing. I am close with several of the major subs in my territory. They are pretty open about how good they've had it over the last 36 months. I generally hear margins for them were almost double the long term normal.

Yeah, they single handily lost deals for us by "hedging" future costs into the pricing and then also threw contingencies on top, with escalation on the entire sum (our principles owned 50% of the GC as well, so reporting was an unbelievably hot topic)… multiple times had to sit the GC down and have them walk me thru every single line up and justify their price changes since they were basing on design drawings and massings. We underwrote so many deals and the GCs simply aren't sophisticated enough to play the game well, and they just throw numbers at you that cover their ass. My point is, it's not materials that are loosening up pricing today. Your electric comment may be 10% lower than 6 months ago, but where was that price 6 months ago against years prior? Literally double…? What about lead time for materials like switch boards and other stuck-in-shipping/manufacturing overseas-bottleneck items? Where lumber at against historical? How do you price an object you need that'll take 2 years to even get here? GCs either take less profit or simply don't bid today, that's a bad place to be for everyone…

 

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