Citi TTS MA vs Non-BB structuring 1 year Trainee

Hi guys,

I am looking for some advice on choosing between these 2 offers. I am currently a final year student.


I received an offer from Citi TTS management associate program (cash management and trade finance) and an offer from French Banks (BNP/Socgen) structuring 1 year Trainee (contract-based), and the team is responsible for documentation such as prepare derivatives termsheet, understand idsa (legal perspective) etc. Citi pays an half more than the trainee role since it's just a trainee role, and it seems hard to convert to structuring permanent contract according to my friend working there.


some pros that Citi TTS over structuring trainee:

  1. permanent contract, and is well-established program that might be promoted faster than others.

  2. TTS is Citi's franchise and it is a must that Citi will focus much on TTS in the future due to the stable business nature and huge revenue.

  3. it pays double of the 1 year structuring trainee.


Cons:

  1. I personally like investment more and it is hard to jump to investment role in the future if I work in TTS (only internal mobility opportunities, study master or MBA), the career development is narrow.

  2. it seems like TTS business (cash management and trade) is considered middle/back office in other banks so I assume the pay is low, so I might have to stay in Citi for a long time.


On the other hand, I have some concerns about the structuring trainee role since it is documentation team (not pricing or other technical team), so I am worried that it is hard to apply for other full time front office structuring role in other banks. I notice that documentation might be viewed as operation team’s job in some BB and I don’t want to go operation. There are many isda regulation involved and I saw there are some position called "derivative structuring lawyer" in other BB but it is not I want. I want to learn more on quantitative and technical knowledge like pricing/product development in derivatives. I am also interested in switching to derivatives sales after working in structuring but not sure if it is common exit opp.


I would like to seek for some advice and some explanations on how structuring really does and its potential exit opps will be highly appreciated.

 

thanks for your answer! Yeah, so I really have to think twice before stepping into TTS. I want to do derivatives sales or structuring in the future but not sure if the experience in documentation team will help because I won't help in pricing but only to prepare termsheets.

 

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