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by cloud9 User's RSS Feed (Monkey, 40 Banana Points Points) on 3/9/10 at 12:41pm

Anyone know anything about Goldman equity research?

Trying to get some insight on the culture, hours, exit opps, respectability...anything that sets them apart in research.

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Heavy focus on the numbers.

by PorcineAviation User's RSS Feed (Senior Baboon, 188 Banana Points Points) on 3/9/10 at 12:55pm

Heavy focus on the numbers. Unofficial policy of being the best rather than the biggest; serve fewer buy-side clients hence poor ranking in Starmine, Extel etc.

Culture is more academic than other houses. Greater distance from the floor, and Spec Sales (or Marketing Analysts as called at GS) sit in the Research team rather than the Sales team.

Exit opportunities tend to be based on the Goldman name and alumni rather than analysts' reputation with the buy-side. They use a relatively unusual ratio technique for valuation and generally don't bother with DCF, which has an impact on transferability of skills to say PE. Nevertheless, very well respected. Calibre of employees within the department is exceptional, but there's less opportunity to make a name for yourself as an analyst.

Hours are standard ER: roughly 6:30 to 5:30 but fluctuates with newsflow.

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Only guy I know that went to

by Mezz User's RSS Feed Certified User (King Kong, 1026 Banana Points Points) on 3/9/10 at 1:07pm

Only guy I know that went to Goldman ER later joined two VERY VERY prestigious HFs.

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Mezz wrote: Only guy I know

by jjc1122 User's RSS Feed (Senior Gorilla, 918 Banana Points Points) on 3/9/10 at 1:14pm
Mezz wrote:

Only guy I know that went to Goldman ER later joined two VERY VERY prestigious HFs.

If you don't mind me asking, was it a fund of citadel/SAC Capital/Moore caliber?

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PorcineAviation wrote: Heavy

by jjc1122 User's RSS Feed (Senior Gorilla, 918 Banana Points Points) on 3/9/10 at 1:15pm
PorcineAviation wrote:

Heavy focus on the numbers. Unofficial policy of being the best rather than the biggest; serve fewer buy-side clients hence poor ranking in Starmine, Extel etc.

Culture is more academic than other houses. Greater distance from the floor, and Spec Sales (or Marketing Analysts as called at GS) sit in the Research team rather than the Sales team.

Exit opportunities tend to be based on the Goldman name and alumni rather than analysts' reputation with the buy-side. They use a relatively unusual ratio technique for valuation and generally don't bother with DCF, which has an impact on transferability of skills to say PE. Nevertheless, very well respected. Calibre of employees within the department is exceptional, but there's less opportunity to make a name for yourself as an analyst.

Hours are standard ER: roughly 6:30 to 5:30 but fluctuates with newsflow.

Can you elaborate on the "culture being more academic?" And what do spec sales people exactly do?

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jjc1122 wrote: Mezz

by Mezz User's RSS Feed Certified User (King Kong, 1026 Banana Points Points) on 3/9/10 at 1:18pm
jjc1122 wrote:
Mezz wrote:

Only guy I know that went to Goldman ER later joined two VERY VERY prestigious HFs.

If you don't mind me asking, was it a fund of citadel/SAC Capital/Moore caliber?

Yes. Actually, you mentioned one of them.

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greater distance from the

by The Situation User's RSS Feed (Monkey, 47 Banana Points Points) on 3/9/10 at 2:01pm

greater distance from the floor? what? I heard research worked closely with traders at Goldman...guess not?

Looks like we got a situation.

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The Situation wrote: greater

by PorcineAviation User's RSS Feed (Senior Baboon, 188 Banana Points Points) on 3/9/10 at 5:27pm
The Situation wrote:

greater distance from the floor? what? I heard research worked closely with traders at Goldman...guess not?

All research teams work closely with traders. But from my experience, the research team at GS seems less part of the trading floor than at, say, UBS where researchers are constantly working the floor, holding teach-ins with salespeople, or consulting their spec salesperson.

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