How to lie without getting caught?
Okay, so this is not exactly about lying. Here's my situation:
I wanted to go to an event at a Canada-based MM, but didn't send my resume in time to RSVP for the event. One of my friends went, got a business card from an MD and gave it to me because he is an international student and this bank does not sponsor internationals for visas in the US. How should I email this MD? Would it be totally insane if I lied and told her that I was at the event and spoke with her? Keep in mind, this event was about 10 days ago, now. Again, I really would like to meet with this person as it would be great exposure.
Let me know your thoughts, all!
Why lie? They are NOT that dense....and what is the advantage? To claim your someone so immemorable that they don't even remember talking to you?
Better yet see if you can't get your friend to email them, say thank you but sponsorship is an issue, and ask if they would be willing to this friend of his who wasn't able to attend.
Only thing I would like about is making up a bullshit, unverifiable excuse to not be able to go.....something like a dental procedure that you weren't able to reschedule. Even then only say that if asked.
Come on dude. Don't lie. This is why people think people in finance are sleazy.
Haha. Truth.
If your friend made a connection with this person, get your friend to do an email introduction.
Why don't you just email the MD? What does lying benefit you?
I don't think you're any better off lying than just saying how you actually got a hold of her e-mail. The honest version of the story arguably shows more effort as long as you aren't lying about missing the RSVP. Notice the slippery slope of being dishonest; you really shouldn't lie in your professional life, especially to smart people.
Being honest, telling said MD your story of how you got their contact info shows you're willing to think outside the box on how to get their attention
Lying, done right, is all good, but in this situation, just ask for an introduction from your friend, if not, then just send a cold e-mail, that's the best you can do.
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You are a fucking idiot and should be banned from providing any advice.
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Jesus christ, you're a fucking idiot. You're going to make an MD believe you spoke with her? If that's not lying IDK what is. Good to know what I'm up against for SA 2017.
Limited Reward, Huge Downside Risk. Cold e-mail using the info obtained by your colleague is the best course of action.
Listen my man, if you don't get caught, it's not lying. We all aspire to be like people in this industry that have done worse things when they're in positions of power to make money. But in all honesty, lying in this specific case is stupid and won't help you out that much. During recruiting and information events, they are mostly just to introduce their firm and answer any questions. MD's aren't going to like you more because you spoke with them for 30 seconds at an event. During OCR, we all sent follow up emails, and MD's/VP's probably had 100 follow up emails thanking them for coming. When attending, your only goal should be to get contact information which you already have. Just email the MD and tell them what school you go to and what your request is. No need to lie in this specific case.
Go to the search bar and type jeffrey chiang. Read. If you have to lie to an MD, maybe you're not welcome in an industry that values trust, integrity and above all, a sound understanding of the English language.
Fucking Moron
Hey all. So, I have an update. Decided to take all of your advice and emailed the MD without lying. I just told her the truth and said that a friend of mine was at the event and gave me this MD's card. The MD replied almost immediately, saying that they would love to help. Had the phone call yesterday and it was great! The MD seemed to really like me and said that I can keep in touch. Thanks!
The simple fact you had to ask this question on WSO is telling. Still a fucktard, sorry.
In these types of situations I always started my email by: I was referred to you by a friend. You can give me some more background on this if he accepts to meet or setup a phone call. Remember that when you are reaching out to people you want to keep your email short. This also allows you to say the truth and to be honest he probably doesn't care who your friend is.
If you do get to meet him or setup a phone call. Say something like my friend went to the event and talked to you, he gave said you were a great guy and gave me your card so I figured I would reach out.
That's the way I would do it and how I would recommend anyone in your situation do it.
Good luck and don't lie there is no upside at all and the downside is that the situation becomes awkward and you get dinged.
Best of luck,
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