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Options Trading for the newly Unemployed

If you have found yourself in the seemingly unenviable ranks of the unemployed...think again.

While we are all looking for jobs, we are really looking to make money. Period. I am looking for a few good men (or women) to join me in an informal options trading group. My thought is that putting enough smart, driven people in the same room creates a fertile ground for profit and camaraderie.

Here's the deal: I trade options with a small portfolio ($25,000). Returns generated have exceeded 40% per month. Do the math, that's a decent living for having control of your life and on such a small investment. This is hard - I guarantee nothing. But if you were like me sitting your desk dreaming of a better life, this may be it. As for me, it's perfect but it's lonely while all my friends are at work til 9pm or later most nights and I am at the gym by 4:30pm and hitting up happy hours at 7pm.

The method: The entry method will be kept extremely simple - the signal will be volume accumulation/selling at support and resistance, the confirmation will be the trend shift that portends a greater trending movement (specifics of this will be exposed later). Ironically, the entry method isn't the critical factor, it's the position sizing on a risk adjusted basis and minimizing losses. Van Tharp talks about this in great detail and this is the key to making money. The exit is also simple although this is a more delicate area of discussion. I make about 3-5 trades a week and hold for 2 days to 3 weeks. That's it.

About you: you are in NYC. You should be unpretentiously smart and have an understanding of equity valuation, stock investing, options, deltas, theta and some basic options experience (have an account that has option writing capabilities). You also need to be pretty cool to hang out with - I hung out with enough dicks at work. I imagine that a group of 3-4 people is plenty, so I am only looking for 2-3 more people. Ideally, you should also be 25-30 years old, have one or a combination of an MBA, PhD, CFA or Series 7/63... this isn't a get rich quick thing and I need you to be additive, not a draw on the group's capabilities. If you think you can just be yourself and people generally like you, we'll get along. I swear.

About me: former investment banking associate who couldn't deal with the hours or the personalities, BA from UCLA, JD/MBA from Emory, 740 GMAT, love to make money, work out, crack jokes and enjoy my life. I read a ton each week, have taught myself how to read japanese candlestick charts and some technical analysis (which my MBA program would laugh at, but thousands of traders know better).

PM me if serious. Don't flame me if you're not. I don't have the time for it and really neither should you.

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aachimp's picture

Good luck in your endeavor.

Good luck in your endeavor. I pray that you aren't selling OTM puts and calls as your primary strategy. And watch out for those fat tails.

As my boss used to say:
"sell the teenies, buy the Lamborghinis....until you blow up and lose it all."

InspectHerGadget's picture

thanks

Although the positions are definitely directional, I try to stay delta neutral as a portfolio by always having some calls and some puts. And yes, they are always ITM because the movements are short term and I want the delta. As for hedging, I use stops, not spreads.

I have another portfolio with a long term strategy that holds LEAPs and sells front month calls when IV hits monthly historical highs. It's hedged with DIA/SPY puts.

aachimp's picture

"I have another portfolio

"I have another portfolio with a long term strategy that holds LEAPs and sells front month calls when IV hits monthly historical highs. It's hedged with DIA/SPY puts."

fat tails all over the place

InspectHerGadget's picture

You're right, aachimp. This

You're right, aachimp. This has been (and may continue to be) a difficult environment for longer term buy and hold investors.
And for the understatement of my year - my LT portfolio has been underperforming expectations. Taking money from selling short term calls that expire worthless or buying/selling them 3x throughout the month for 50% gains each really doesn't begin to cover the downside unrealized losses from the LEAPs decreasing in value. That's the reality. It's just a hedge... a mere band-aid over a hemorrhaging head wound.

That's why I am focused on the swing trade to take advantage of shorter term movements, both up and down, in specific sectors.