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If I knew how to develop software and wanted to do it, then yes.
It doesn't sound like you do. Do you any other options?
Yes!
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
If I was qualified and had no other options, why wouldn't I?
a guy i interviewed did an internship in d.e.shaw's programming dept. he said it was extremely boring and he would get assignments and go sit at a desk by himself and work on code with very little interaction with other ppl.
You'll get paid a shit-load and it'll look good on the resume, and I doubt it'd be boring - David Shaw is a comp sci guy and arguably started the firm to fund his research.
If you can't talk up a DE Shaw job on a future interview, no matter what the actual experience, you're an idiot. Failing another offer you find more desirable (and that'd have to be a great offer), I'd take this.
NYC HERE I FCUKING COME.
No, I'd take Citadel FTAP, although I'd also develop a plan for a departure after 1 year.
I'd also change the msg below your posts to "Chicago here I fcuking come" (unless you got NY, which would be rare. Had some buddies who were laid off from there ~6 mos in).
NYC HERE I FCUKING COME.
The way I look at things, I am always looking to be the best; so even if things don't work out I am still in the top 10%. When I see that the top 30% get in I smile because I know that is very easy to attain. Such as when I was in grad school - the "informal" grading system is 30% A's, 60% B's, 10% C's; which equated to some very easy A's.
I was thinking of ITAP - I would take DE Shaw over Citadel FTAP because Shaw pays better, it's in NY, and people generally speak better of the culture. I think Citadel is trying to do too much right now, and since they're building an i-bank, you're even more likely to do shitty ops.
And as for the top 30% being 'easy' to get into - Citadel already gets the best from the best schools. Good luck
Well then you've got to be the "best of the best of the best sir" (MIB style). But seriously if you don't have confidence in yourself then you will never be the best. Never said it would be easy, but rather that with the right mindset it would be easy.
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