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+12
Dude you have no idea how hard it is to do that.
Analyst 1
in
IB-M&A
+12
Based on the strength of your logic, I wholeheartedly endorse you applying to Scotia. Best of luck!
Works at
RBC Capital Markets
+12
Carlyle. In last two years they have 1) reduced headcount considerably, 2) completely exited Consumer, 3) Missed fundraising targets due to poor performance, 4) Had partners leave.
DBisntaBB
+12
As you grow up you'll realize almost everything is fake. The economy being strong. The government being competent. The generally agreed upon science of healthcare. How much people seem to have things together.
PrivateTechquity 🚀GME🚀
+12
Every time league tables get posted someone comments this, forgetting the fact that Moelis does a ton of sponsor sell-sides that don’t have reportable values.
Analyst 1
in
IB - Gen
+12
Define “doing better” Of course they make more But how much can they save? What do you think they are worth? Say a 34 or 35 year old who just made MD.
bluecollarfinanceguy
+12
NYC voted for AOC to rep them - 'nuff said
margin_calls
+12
Nice. Let's go!
Associate 1
in
IB - Gen
+12
Just my own thoughts - Worked across America and Europe extensively and continue to do.
Assistant PM
in
HF - EquityHedge
+12
Agree with all other big points mentioned but a smaller point I have seen from the social side is interns getting to comfortable.
Associate 2
in
S&T - FI
+12
For everyone saying USC is not a target school: (2025)
bankingtothemoon1234
+12
I’ve been where you are and struggled with the same decision. I think the prior comment is spot on in that you need to do your diligence on how feasible it is to stay on at the LO after the 3-5y program.
VP
in
AM - Equities
+12
Some good advice in the thread. Here's some reasons I've dinged / seen interns get dinged in the past on top of those:
PE-biz-dev
+12
A bunch of us are at the elevator gates and our key cards no longer work. Security is confused and no one knows what going on (including a staffer that we talked to)
Analyst 3+
in
IB - Gen
+12
but you whine like a bitch
zoba
+12
Long-run I’d say Dartmouth will give you better opportunities, recalling a per capita buyside placement ranking I saw earlier. Since you liked the campus and community, I’d branch out a bit.
Research Analyst
in
PE - Growth
+12
Other analysts at other banks should join on this. Street wide strike
Analyst 1
in
IB - Cov
+12
Wildly inaccurate list.. PJT at nearly 1 trillion of transactions, EVR is not that large relative to other EBs, and employee counts in general are all over the place.
Analyst 1
in
IB-M&A
+11
Best of luck my friend! Just got an offer too!! So excited to be working for my Dads firm and take over for him one day. Big shoes to fill, but I’m sure we can do it! Best of luck
Prospect
in
IB - Gen
+11
I'm connected to this person on LinkedIn through a friend, and it appears she has removed her MBA, CMI membership, and many other previously mentioned details from her profile. What a coincidence, isn't it?!
Analyst IB 2
+11
WSJ here, reach out whenever.
alexander.saeedy
+11
pls fix
Lowkey Omakase
+11
This isn't right ^.
SPYShorts
+11
Burger flipping at McDonald’s?
VP
in
IB-M&A
+11
Cons: yacht gets too big, too many friends out for money, get audited by irs bc too much income/net worth. Not sure others
midwest_analyst
+11
Haha my goodness how could I ever have missed that?? MF: 10.67bn+**** Better?
beekay27
+11
1. I don't regret it at all. From a financial POV, it's changed my life and is probably the single best career choice I made. For the right person it's an amazing opportunity.
Analyst 3+
in
HF - EquityHedge
+11
Sir plz go to your nearest park, find a lawn, and rub your ass cheeks on it.
Intern
in
S&T - FI
+11
My point is that it actually does vary a lot… yes deal sprints are brutal no matter where you work but they’re exactly that — sprints. You might sprint for 2-4 weeks per deal maybe 3-4 times a year?
Principal
in
PE - LBOs
+11
Evening cardio. It can be as a simple as hopping on a bike / incline treadmill while you watch TV / listen to an Audiobook. I often do this at around 9pm so I have had some time to digest after dinner.
yahoo
+11
I've dealt w/ ADHD since my early 20's, consider myself a veteran if you will.
Stonks1990
+11
My firm does a lot with this so there are a few ways of looking at this.
Christophiish
+11
Apollo.
Analyst 1
in
IB-M&A
+11
Everyone is going to be skeptical because this industry is built on skepticism.
Investment Analyst
in
AM - Equities
+11
You truly are low caliber talent if this is how you think
Associate 1
in
PE - LBOs
+11
I am a mentor and a VP on the buyside, I have a large number of investment bankers in my network, some of them my mentees. The harsh truth is that you are asking the wrong question.
kuroganekuro
+11
AS2 in ibd not showing up to work today f gary howe, brian ascher, mark adley and the staffer involve
Associate 1
in
IB - Gen
+11
You're an intern yourself shut the fuck up lmao
Analyst 1
in
IB-M&A
+11
Good luck - it's disgusting how fucking ball-less (or genuinely bad at their jobs) some senior people are that they can't push back on clients.
Five Star Man
+11
brother in what universe is citi on the same level as GS/MS and since when are Baird and HL elite boutiques???
Analyst 1
in
IB - Gen
+11
Here are 4 things I noticed that resulted in people from my intern class not getting returns
Analyst 1
in
IB - Gen
+11
Intern
in
HF - EquityHedge
+11
comparison is the thief of joy
thebrofessor
+11
Listen to eloquent people speak.
CRE
+10
Ozymandia = a grown ass man that deserves a swirlie
Investment Analyst
in
RE - Comm
+10
Maybe not the piece of advice you want to hear - but if you want to start a start-up... just start one.
DavidFosterWallace
+10
This is the cycle of online forums.
Smoke Frog
+10
On the resource front, obviously EDGAR and company IR pages will have your earnings releases, K’s, Qs, presentations etc. Places like BAMSec (i think they maybe still have a free version) will have transcripts.
M_As_In_Mancy
+10
Actually the intern death didn’t just ‘blow over’ and BOFA is the only top bank in london now with a 10pm restriction for interns.
Associate 2
in
IB - Cov
+10
emilyflitter Good morning, my name is Emily Flitter and I'm a New York Times reporter writing about this matter. Please get in touch.
Dust
+10
I think the confusion comes because the firm has a complicated pay schedule. Bonuses are paid year end, but base salary is reset in the summer.
Associate 1
in
PE - LBOs
+10
First of all, Business Insider is a terrible source of information.
Rob92
+10
I'm not opposed to this at all. That being said, all your other threads are on UBS and CS. Are you actually who you say you are?
JulianRobertson
+10
I'm also in BofA FIG and can agree that morale is dead. Hopefully HR can do something to address the conditions on the ground. A lot of the MDs are very abusive and treat juniors like garbage.
Prospect
in
IB-M&A
+10
Just for anyone in banking/late in college looking to start your career and assessing the best pathway, note how crowded the views in here are on how much better pods and LOs are relative to SMs.
Analyst 3+
in
HF - Other
+10
WSO Team here - As I'm typing this, Patrick is talking with the brother to organize a major fundraiser to support the family. We’re putting everything we have into making this a significant event.
Chief Chuckler
+10
Emory unironically is a Centerview target
Analyst 1
in
IB-M&A
+10
trying_my_best What do you work as now, Isaiah?
Isaiah_53_5 💎🙌💎🙌💎
+10
genuine question: to those who asked for the interview questions from your literal competitors, would you be willing to share if it was the other way around?
Anonymous Monkey
+10
Do NOT make anyone uncomfortable.
flynance200
+10
am_5: It’s pretty obvious what needs to be done here man Fuck the dad?
Analyst 1
in
IB - Gen
+10
This is correct - good observation
VP
in
PE - LBOs
+10
All of the above are correct. Some additional color and methods described below.
Esque_
+10
Is everyone just an entitled asshole these days? Ffs, y'all on a witch hunt baying for blood and someone actually went after Pat. Pathetic keyboard warriors.
rabbit
+10
100% agree. Feels like they hire way too many under performers at all levels and don’t fire or hold them accountable. Feels like 80% of the work is being done by 20% of the people.
Analyst 2
in
IB - Cov
+10
Disclaimer: I also worked there (within last 7 years, not saying more beyond that) and got the numbers out of a senior guy one night.
Analyst 3+
in
HF - EquityHedge
+10
No and WF is not a
Director
in
IB - Gen
+10
Bankers work 16 hours a day & yet they have the time to go out of their way to pull this shit off
asalunke
+10
As jr analyst, my days outside of earnings looked like the below. Hard to give an exact split but I’d guess I was 50 modeling/30 reading/20 calls.
Investment Analyst
in
HF - Other
+10
CRE
+10
An alternative to starting your own shop, as in development shop or acquisitions shop, is to become a CFO-like role of an asset intensive start up.
odog808 @MemoryVideo.com
+10
Most "simple" LMM businesses at auction are the product of a person's life work. Take a "simple" business services platform as an example - e.g. commerical plumbing, HVAC, landscaping.
yeahrightbuddy111
+10
In terms of 'best' if we're talking about exit opportunities and prestige it would probably look like EVR M&A, GS TMT/FIG, PJT RSSG, and MS M&A.
Analyst 1
in
IB-M&A
+10
As someone who actually broke in, the funny thing about Moelis is there are multiple groups that are so good they never have to pitch, but you only know how to regurgitate stuff you’ve seen on WSO.
Analyst 1
in
IB - Gen
+10
PWM is looked down upon because it is not likely to yield earnings as large as other areas of high finance as quickly, and the long term upside usually is higher elsewhere.
Investment Analyst
in
AM - Equities
+10
The MS and edit shows you can’t handle valid criticism.
bananabroker
+10
Interns never fail bro. I swear to god. Someone unexpectedly dies and all you care about is “how DoEs ThIs ImPaCt Sa???” Stfu dude.
Analyst 2
in
IB-M&A
+10
I am a mentor and VP at a boutique firm, and this is a topic I often discuss with my mentees about.
kuroganekuro
+10
A few points I'd make, as a MF REPE (ignore title) guy that interfaces with our corp PE team once in a while:
Analyst 1
in
PE - LBOs
+10
Not a direct answer to your question, but it does feel like this topic is usually way overdramatized on this site.
Analyst 1
in
IB - Gen
+10
Not in IB, so can’t comment on that side, but I am from the UK.
wsr21702
+10
I’d be careful putting too much blame on the staffer. From what I hear, the staffer is typically a mid level banker and their job is to be the conduits between the juniors and senior bankers.
Associate 1
in
IB - Cov
+10
Not the above posted and I never worked in PE but friends that have received carry distributions have been paid nothing remotely close to their quoted DAW, so my guess is 1.
Investment Analyst
in
HF - EquityHedge
+10
Definitely applying himself
Analyst 1
in
PE - LBOs
+10
Hello, xanderrrr123. How are you doing today? You asked the PE forum a question a few hours back, requesting information on TMT stocks that had huge upside potential with very little downside risk. Does that ring a bell?
Intern
in
PE - Other
+9
It’s really python in general, and it’s not an energy or commodities or even trading specific answer. It’s just where the data analytics field as a whole is going for the following reasons:
oil_quant
+9
If everything I have read about this situation is true, I am absolutely floored by how something like this was not addressed before something terrible like this happened.
pavementroad
+9
"The other founder and I have corporate real estate experience (Commercial REIB and REPE intern
Analyst 2
in
RE - Comm
+9
I mean this in the nicest way but no one will care where you went to school once you start your job (besides maybe having something in common to chit chat about).
rubiomn9
+9
Old timer here.....I think that things have improved on WSO since the censorship increased. While this is a constant topic, I'd guess that it's down 30% from a year ago or so.
NoEquityResearch
+9
You know who really contacted wso? Those mds names that were posted here.
Associate 2
in
IB - Gen
+9
As someone who works at a bank that paid shit bonuses… I think he’s onto something. Fully agree that his logic doesn’t completely make sense (ie IB is the training ground for PE and other lucrative fields, for example).
Associate 1
in
IB - Cov
+9
I texted my buddy at Barclays NY and he said this is NOT the case and nobody has been locked out of the elevator like that.
Analyst 2
in
IA
+9
MonkeyNoise oh god fuck off with the self defeating 'Millennials and Zoomers have it SOOOOO hard because Boomers screwed everything up!' pity party.
PrivateTechquity 🚀GME🚀
+9
Dumb argument.
Analyst 2
in
IB-M&A
+9
Good job everyone. This thread got over 3 million views on Twitter.
Partner
in
PE - LBOs
+9
Wow honestly fuck BofA and fuck the FIG group head and fuck the other senior guys on the deal, including the VP. Not a SINGLE SHRED of accountability from anyone at BofA.
Analyst 2
in
IB-M&A
+9
These are the books that I have read which cover the history, major players and/or deals within Tech, Media, Telecoms or all 3. Tech:
AnotherLondonMonkey
+9
Censorship on overwhelming support is crazy.
WallStreetOasis.com
+9
This is the second time something like this has happened at Bank of America. Clearly the actions they put in place to stop it happening again were merely surface level.
Analyst 1
in
IB - Gen
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