Based on the WSO threads and discussions, here are some insights to help you decide between your offers for summer '25, especially if you're aiming to recruit full-time for a position at a major PE firm:
BB IB Risk (JPM/GS): Interning at a bulge bracket bank like JPM or GS in a risk role can provide a strong brand name on your resume, which is beneficial. However, risk roles are typically less directly relevant to PE recruiting compared to front-office investment banking roles.
IB M&A (BNP/SocGen/Credit Agricole): These banks, while perhaps not as prestigious as JPM or GS in the U.S., still hold significant weight, especially in Europe. M&A experience is highly relevant to PE, as it involves deal-making processes that are similar to what you would encounter in PE.
IB M&A (Raymond James/Lincoln/TD): These firms are well-respected in the middle market. If your goal is to move into a middle-market PE firm, these could be excellent options. The experience in M&A here is very hands-on, which is a great selling point for PE recruiting.
MM PE (6B+ AUM) (already interned): Since you've already interned here, you might have an advantage in terms of familiarity with the team and the processes. If you received positive feedback during your internship and the firm does full-time recruiting from its pool of interns, this could be a strong option. Direct PE experience is extremely valuable and often preferred for PE recruiting.
Continuing to recruit: This option should be considered if you feel that none of the offers perfectly align with your career goals or if you believe there might be better opportunities that could arise. However, this comes with the risk of not securing another offer in time.
Recommendation: If your ultimate goal is to break into a major PE firm, gaining more direct experience in M&A or continuing with the MM PE firm where you previously interned could be the most strategic choices. The direct deal experience in these roles is highly valued in PE recruiting. However, consider where you felt you had the best fit and where you believe you could grow the most, as these factors are also crucial for long-term success.
Honestly, the best BB in IB is Northwestern mutual. Just check the league tables: most ECM transactions and is becoming front runner in M&A right after Goldman.
6B AUM means nothing, give us the latest fund size and strategy for a better evaluation. Solid MM is $1B - 2B, Good MM's are in that $2B-5B range and UMM is in the $5B+ range. So, there is a huge difference in how to evaluate a $1B latest fund size PE firm vs. one with $4B. Generally though, given your IBD offers I'd take MM PE since from a firm like the ones you listed the best possible outcome is realistically an MM PE firm.
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Based on the WSO threads and discussions, here are some insights to help you decide between your offers for summer '25, especially if you're aiming to recruit full-time for a position at a major PE firm:
BB IB Risk (JPM/GS): Interning at a bulge bracket bank like JPM or GS in a risk role can provide a strong brand name on your resume, which is beneficial. However, risk roles are typically less directly relevant to PE recruiting compared to front-office investment banking roles.
IB M&A (BNP/SocGen/Credit Agricole): These banks, while perhaps not as prestigious as JPM or GS in the U.S., still hold significant weight, especially in Europe. M&A experience is highly relevant to PE, as it involves deal-making processes that are similar to what you would encounter in PE.
IB M&A (Raymond James/Lincoln/TD): These firms are well-respected in the middle market. If your goal is to move into a middle-market PE firm, these could be excellent options. The experience in M&A here is very hands-on, which is a great selling point for PE recruiting.
MM PE (6B+ AUM) (already interned): Since you've already interned here, you might have an advantage in terms of familiarity with the team and the processes. If you received positive feedback during your internship and the firm does full-time recruiting from its pool of interns, this could be a strong option. Direct PE experience is extremely valuable and often preferred for PE recruiting.
Continuing to recruit: This option should be considered if you feel that none of the offers perfectly align with your career goals or if you believe there might be better opportunities that could arise. However, this comes with the risk of not securing another offer in time.
Recommendation: If your ultimate goal is to break into a major PE firm, gaining more direct experience in M&A or continuing with the MM PE firm where you previously interned could be the most strategic choices. The direct deal experience in these roles is highly valued in PE recruiting. However, consider where you felt you had the best fit and where you believe you could grow the most, as these factors are also crucial for long-term success.
Sources: Best summer option for breaking into Private Equity post-MBA, MF PE recruiting for junior summer, MF PE recruiting for junior summer, Are top MFins target programs for Private Equity firms?, Internship Choices (PE vs IB)
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This is just gibberish
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This post hurt my eyes but PE>TD>Lincoln>RJ>BNPP>SocGen>Risk.
Congrats on TD mate, cant even go LMM pe from there
not TD
Would go with SMBC or BMO for best MFPE exits
Don’t forget KeyBanc!
Best firm: mine
Worst firm: yours
Honestly, the best BB in IB is Northwestern mutual. Just check the league tables: most ECM transactions and is becoming front runner in M&A right after Goldman.
6B AUM means nothing, give us the latest fund size and strategy for a better evaluation. Solid MM is $1B - 2B, Good MM's are in that $2B-5B range and UMM is in the $5B+ range. So, there is a huge difference in how to evaluate a $1B latest fund size PE firm vs. one with $4B. Generally though, given your IBD offers I'd take MM PE since from a firm like the ones you listed the best possible outcome is realistically an MM PE firm.
Latest fund size was ~1.2B
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