Vaping - a looming crisis?

I vape THC Delta 8 as it is legal where I live and my building doesn't allow smoking. It's pretty meh compared to bong hits. I miss bong hits. 

Yeah it’s not ideal - I actually get mad when I see kids doing it and will sometimes yell at them. Probably doesn’t do much, but better than nothing imo.

They’re getting addicted to a substance for no reason

It's definitely pretty bad for you, people are starting to realize it - vaping has finally started to fall off massively in the US in the last year or two, mostly after a few highly publicized incidents with lung injuries right before COVID. That amount of nicotine is also just not good either. FDA has cracked way down too, no flavored vapes which were the real draw and they are trying to get even regular menthol ones off the market (Juuls were banned for a day or two last week, they got a temporary stay though).

Think even socially it's starting to become less "cool" - every FT analyst used to vape in the office without anyone even glancing, and now if someone's sneaking vape hits at their desk they definitely get some side-eye.

I think it will be a major issue. At least when people were smoking cigarettes they had/have to step outside. People rip vapes every 10 minutes every day.I just worry about my friends and their health

IMO anything that's not air is probably bad for your lungs, and the negative impact is probably related to how much you're consuming. I wouldn't be surprised if people who vape every now and then were just fine, but I would be surprised if there are no serious negative impacts on people who vape constantly

I knew a guy who taped 3-4 Juuls together into a "harmonica" to increase dosage, and have other friends who effectively always have one Juul charging and another in use since (often waking up multiple times per night to vape)

IMO a big problem with vapes is that they're so easy to use constantly compared to other forms of tobacco. Kind of like how chain smoking is orders of magnitude worse than an occasional cigar (higher frequency with lower magnitude harm product can add up to more than lower frequency with higher magnitude harm product)

It gets even worse when you consider the counterfeit products high schoolers were often using a few years ago

Many Hospitals use Volcanos for vaping - it’s healthy.

The danger in vaping is additives in vape pens. 

I guess vaping is the new way some young people try to fit in socially into society.  Young people tend to have a high risk tolerance and because vaping does not seem like an immediate threat to their health, it seems like an okay thing to do.  It is hard to think long term when you are young but you should try to learn from the mistakes of others. When I was a kid a long time ago, everyone in my family smoked cigarettes, except my parents.  My grandfather smoked 2-3 packs per day and eventually died of lung cancer.  It was a terrible experience watching this strong guy go through chemotherapy.  When he started smoking, probably as a kid, the dangers of cigarette smoke were not as well documented as they are today.  I could make a similar comment about vaping. 

if you think lighting up oil and plastic from companies with virtually no safety regulations and inhaling that into your lungs is benign I've got a bridge to sell you

if you're going to smoke pot, smoke flower (less processed) and be ready for potential negative health effects (while it doesn't appear to be as bad as cigarettes, there's likely some level of harm above 0)

if you're going to smoke tobacco, just know what you're getting yourself into

vaping isn't lindy, we can't say for sure whether it's good or bad, but what I can say is that if you're sticking a flash drive in your lips multiple times a day I sincerely hope you break the habit

These are the same people that laugh at and call people in the 40s stupid for falling for such "obvious" advertisement and scams regarding cigarettes

Anybody can chime in on how a lot of people in France smoke?  Seems like they live normal lives without too much health consequences. Wondering if there are other data points to consider. 

Inhaling a bunch of chemicals is never good and will likely result in all kinds of cancers.

Just smoke cigarettes if you're going to vape, at least it looks cooler.

Novel post. Critical thinking game super strong.

Answer: Unlikely to be proven as an optimal addition to a balanced, healthy lifestyle.

Sidenote -- pretty sure these mythic cigarette smokers still exist, and continue to outnumber those who vape (not supported by data; only a guess). Maybe we should try to save them. Oh wait, we did that and they said thank you, but no thank you. We could do better with vapers. Oh wait, there is actually little/no chance we do better. I'll keep the long tail in play, but it's a no unless completely banned. Give it half a decade more, and we'll walk by a vaper the same way we currently (or used to when we cared) walk by a smoker. 

However, you watch closely for the moment the three-letter agencies begin to aid the efforts of the Canadian Contras' Juul trafficking operations if the ban takes hold. The 1980s on repeat. Main difference? The intended target: the Caucasians who could be doing perfectly well, but...aren't, for whatever reason(s)? Post-COVID plight reigns supreme in their forever-darkened worlds. We're on the verge of mass Pod raids, Vape Gods calling shots on the corner, you name it. Syndicate this dystopian mini-series now; thank me later. 

You're not a doctor, you were never intellectually curious enough to become one.

So shut up.

And let people do what they want.

Thanks.

I just think it’s bizarre that of all the more pressing of issues in the US, even within the scope of power of the FDA, they randomly choose to go after nicotine in a prohibition like manner. Especially in the midst of a fertilizer shortage given our sanctions against Russia. Good ol’ big brothers got your back!

It was trending this way until campaigns in 2018/9 labeled them as worse than cigarettes and a lot of people stopped (cigarettes are not cool in the states). Now it's just the kids who can't break the vape addiction or the edgy kids who do it.

The anti vape is all deep state reaction (with support from Karens) as they securitized all of their tobacco settlement receivables which are drying up due to the conversion to vape. We need more variety of vapes not less - to include DPT, DMT, Salvia Divanorum 10x extract, and 5-Meo-DMT

I get the concerns – the rise was swift, and who knows what the long-term effects might be.

The nicotine levels do raise some eyebrows, and you've got a point about the potential unknowns. It's always a bit nerve-wracking when we're in uncharted territory health-wise.

Your once-a-month approach sounds responsible! Wondering, has anyone dug into how much nicotine is in a vape? Let's share some insights and keep each other in the loop on this evolving landscape.

It's great if you don't vape too much.