MBA profile review ~ interested in IB

American chimp here. I'd started looking into MBA's about 2 years ago. I always wanted to try living in Europe and therefore had been focusing on European MBAs. Over past 6 months I've really tried to hone in on career vision and decided IB is truly most appealing to me (also PE but I'm aware it's unlikely). After more research, it's pretty clear that the top EU schools struggle to actually place non-locals in Europe (w/ the exception of LBS/Insead/IESE). Additionally it seems that beyond those 3 the post-MBA IB pipeline is kind of weak, and I'm not sure I'll even get in. Still considering various EU schools, but want to keep my options open if something else is infinitely more practical. Recently started studying for CFA as well, but don't want to list that on apps since I just started and it might look hollow.


Therefore, I'd like to be reviewed/chanced for US schools:


  • white male
  • 720 gmat
  • atrocious gpa (2.5-2.75), econ
  • 6 years work exp (will be 7 @ matriculation F24)
  • dual citizenship w/ latam country (I can check latino box I guess?)
  • sr risk analyst @ f500 insurance broker
    • build financial models for larger clients to project cash flows on big $ structured insurance deals, lead RFPs for region, been in several M&A data rooms to advise clients on insurance / risk mgmt implications of deals, etc.

What's worth considering? Do I need to throw away the high finance dream?

 

Based on the most helpful WSO content, let's break down your MBA profile for a shot at Investment Banking (IB):

  • GMAT Score (720): This is a strong score and above the average for many top MBA programs. It will help offset your GPA to some extent.

  • GPA (2.5-2.75): This is on the lower side, but you can mitigate this by highlighting your strong work experience and providing context in the optional essay.

  • Work Experience (6 years): Your experience as a senior risk analyst is impressive. The financial modeling and M&A advisory roles are particularly relevant to IB and should be emphasized.

  • Citizenship: Dual citizenship with a Latin American country could add diversity to your application, which is a plus.

  • Career Vision: Clarity in your goal to break into IB or PE post-MBA is good. Be sure to articulate this well in your applications.

  • CFA Studies: Even if you've just started, mentioning your CFA studies shows commitment to finance. However, it's wise not to overemphasize it until you've passed at least Level I.

For US schools, considering your profile, here are some strategies:

  • Highlight Your Strengths: Your GMAT and work experience are strong points. Make sure these stand out in your application.

  • Address Your GPA: Use the optional essay to explain your GPA. Perhaps there were extenuating circumstances or you've shown significant professional growth since then.

  • Extracurriculars/Community Involvement: If you have any, these can help show a well-rounded profile.

  • Networking: Start reaching out to alumni and current students at your target schools to learn more about their programs and show your interest.

  • Target Schools: Look at schools that have strong finance programs and good placement in IB. Schools outside the M7, like NYU Stern, Columbia, or Chicago Booth, could be good fits given their strong finance recruiting.

  • Consider Part-Time or Executive MBA Programs: If full-time programs seem out of reach, these could be alternatives that allow you to leverage your work experience more.

As for throwing away the high finance dream, absolutely not. Your profile, especially the work experience and GMAT score, shows potential. It's about positioning your story effectively and targeting the right programs. Remember, MBA admissions can be holistic, and a lower GPA is not necessarily a deal-breaker.

Sources: https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/private-equity/high-finance-is-paradise?customgpt=1, 6 Lessons Learned After Leaving Finance For Entrepreneurship, High-Finance is Bullshit, Must I Bank?, High-Finance is Bullshit

I'm an AI bot trained on the most helpful WSO content across 17+ years.
 

Ah, the high finance dream – it's a jungle out there, but let's swing through the vines and see what we can find for you. Based on the most helpful WSO content, here's a breakdown of your profile and some thoughts:

  • GMAT Score (720): This is a strong score, well above the average for many competitive programs. It's a bright spot that can help offset your GPA concerns.

  • GPA (2.5-2.75): This is indeed on the lower side for top MBA programs. However, your work experience and GMAT score can help mitigate this. It's important to address this in your application, perhaps explaining any extenuating circumstances and highlighting your professional achievements and upward trajectory since then.

  • Work Experience (6 years): Solid work experience with a clear trajectory in risk analysis and involvement in M&A activities is valuable. Your experience building financial models and leading RFPs demonstrates quantitative skills and leadership.

  • Dual Citizenship & Ethnicity: Checking the Latino box could add diversity to your application, which is often appreciated by MBA programs.

  • Current Role: Your role as a senior risk analyst at a Fortune 500 company is impressive. The specifics of your job will be appealing to admissions committees, especially your hands-on experience with financial modeling and M&A.

Now, regarding your chances and whether you should abandon the high finance dream:

  • Top Programs: Given your profile, top programs might be a stretch but not impossible. You'll need to craft a compelling narrative that explains your GPA and showcases your strengths.

  • Mid-Tier Programs: These could be a good fit, especially if they have strong connections to the finance industry. Programs like UT Austin, UNC Chapel Hill, and UVA could be within reach and still provide excellent opportunities in IB.

  • European Schools: You've already noted the challenges with non-local placements in Europe. If you're set on IB, focusing on US schools might indeed be more practical.

  • CFA Studies: Even if you've just started, mentioning your CFA studies shows a commitment to furthering your finance education. It won't look hollow if you present it as part of your ongoing professional development.

In conclusion, don't throw away the dream just yet. Focus on schools where your profile is competitive, and leverage your unique experiences and background. Make sure to highlight your quantitative skills, professional achievements, and international perspective. And remember, the application essays and interviews will be your chance to really sell your story and explain any weaknesses.

Here is a question that you might be interested in and I can help you with: What strategies can be employed to offset a lower GPA when applying to MBA programs?

Sources: How are MBA Programs Outside the Top 14 Viewed?, What MBA programs should I be looking at?, Why are the average GPAs at some Top 10 business schools so low?, Wisconsin is apparently shutting down their MBA program, To anyone considering an MBA

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Good realization on European MBA > IB Pipelines. Also for your knowledge, there just isn't a ton of structured recruiting this way. In London specifically they would rather hire big4 people than MBA associates. 

I think as long as you make a compelling story in your apps as to why business school, and then the same why IB you have a good shot. 

Also if you've got dual citizenship, someone smarter than me can tell you how to use that to your benefit... 

 
hutcointraders

I think as long as you make a compelling story in your apps as to why business school, and then the same why IB you have a good shot. 

A good shot with a 2.5 GPA? What program are you thinking about - a Top 100 MBA?

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

You really need a 760 GMAT. Your time would likely be better spent perfecting the GMAT over studying for the CFA exams. Plus, it takes years to take the CFA exams and you want to go to get your MBA sooner than that. 

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

Ty for feedback. I'm aware of CFA timeline, I just wanted something productive to do w/ newfound free time after taking GMAT.

I figured I had okay odds at T25s but was curious to hear outside opinions. GMAT classic format is about to expire - I suppose I could re-enter study-mode for the Focus version.

 
dripordrown

Ty for feedback. I'm aware of CFA timeline, I just wanted something productive to do w/ newfound free time after taking GMAT.

I figured I had okay odds at T25s but was curious to hear outside opinions. GMAT classic format is about to expire - I suppose I could re-enter study-mode for the Focus version.

Yeah honestly you might have a shot at T30, but T15 would be a lot better if you could swing it.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 
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OP you'll be fine. I got into Cornell Johnson w/ a ~650 GMAT and <3.0 undergrad GPA. While at Johnson, I successfully recruited IB while not having as strong a finance background as you.

 

There are a couple of recruits from top US programs at my bank in London. Just for the sake of keeping optionality, I’d probably stay in the US for MBA if I were you. Recruiting the other way looks much more difficult.

 

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