What are the best Non Target Uni’s in the UK?
Including semi targets, for reputation but if they are especially good in and relevant degree discipline that’d be useful information too.
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Manchester and York in my experience are obviously not top top but you get tons of people in banking from those unis
Surely York tops Manchester. With a lower overall student population sending the same amount in. Per head your chances are higher?
Don't really think it matters that much... If you're clever enough and interesting enough you'll get in anywhere. I went to Manchester, got a 2.1 and started at Morgan Stanley before moving into private credit
I agree in the fact that Manchesters large student body probably does skew placement likelihood as it is such a large university.
Saying that though - GS were on campus last semester promoting their SA and SW, all representatives including juniors were past Manchester Alumni.
York, Leeds, Manchester all spring to mind.
Durham, Exeter, York, Leeds
If you're including semi targets into the non-target bracket then the best non-targets are just the semi-targets...
In which case why not ask what the best semi-targets are?
Assuming you're not that silly then the best non targets excluding semis are probably Manchester, York, Leeds maybe
Degree discipline shouldn't matter but the reality is you see more placement from STEM/Econ, the less targeted a uni is. That could either be self selection bias or an actual consideration from HR.
Nottingham seems to place pretty well, KCL, St Andrews, Edinburgh and Bath are also up there
What about Loughborough is that even considered a prominent non target nowadays?
Yeah… this one’s a strange one for me. Places pretty high in the UK rankings and above other semi targets but doesn’t get much talk, same for Lancaster.
Shows the ranks don’t mean much.
The UK rankings haven't meant much for years. Guardian 2022 - Notts is placed 52nd wtf
Lancaster just games the system. Loughborough does too but they are at least pretty decent as a university.
Then what are the Semi-Targets which are targetted by the banks? Is there really a difference between Semi-Targets and the Top Non-Targets?
Think there’s broad conflation of semi-targets and non-targets here, although I agree that it’s not a well-defined separation. I would lump the universities outside the big six finance targets into the following categories:
Semi-target, public reputation as a top ten or so uni: Durham, Edinburgh, KCL, Bristol
Semi-targets, strong finance/econ or maths/engineering depts with decent effort going into alum relations, career networks, and internships/industrial placements, not as strong public reputation: Exeter, Notts, Bath, Leeds (could make a growing argument for above category)
Well-known, not actively targeted by most banks (non-targets?), but probably can break in via diversity schemes or a very strong resume: St Andrews, Manchester, York
Have absolutely no idea where to put Bayes in this, which is probably a non-target that still gives you give a chance while not being at all known outside of finance.
As non-targets York and St Andrews are definitely the best. York as an example case generally sends 5 to 10 students to BBs for S&T and IB at grad level every year.
Yeah but St Andrews is weird in that it’s actually pretty competitive to get into. If you’re targeting finance/consulting, doesn’t make sense to go St Andrews when you can be competitive for most courses at targets with the same grades > equivalent in the US would be going to a non-target but still competitive to get in LAC over a T20. Even if you’re Scottish and get free tuition, go Edinburgh at least where there’s some finance pipeline.
Manchester, York, Leeds, Birmingham, Loughborough and QMUL
Warwick is the best non-target by a mile
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