Best target school: Queens/Schulich/UofT
Hi
I'm researching the possibilities of becoming an investment banker. It seems that much of the game of landing a job is first being noticed so I ask you guys, which school is most heavily recruited?
*I did not include Ivey because I was foolish enough to not apply.
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1. Queens 2. Schulich 3.
1. Queens
2. Schulich
3. UofT
I would say Queens, U of T
I would say Queens, U of T then Schulich, just because in the scenario that IB isn't for you, at Schulich only BCG came out for consulting, while U of T had a lot more. Not sure the numbers for other schools, but Schulich had around 10 - 15 FT offers in IB, with 5 - 10 SA offers into IB, with 0 M/B/B type offers, if it helps. If people have U of T or Queen's numbers you can compare.
The guy was asking purely
The guy was asking purely for investment banking recruiting in which case I think Queens, Schulich then University of Toronto (St. George) is accurate.
I attend St. George, and we definately did not send over ten people into investment banking. Based on my buddies in Queens, it seems they send a good amount into the American firms, whereas Schulich is much better amongst the big six sending only a couple into the bulge brackets.
Just my observations. Although through good grades, networking and all that same stuff you hear again and again you can break in from any of these schools imho.
Queens is by far the best to
Queens is by far the best to go to. U of T and Schulich don't even come close. I've got friends in both and they've always complained about the lack of opportunities (one of them is transferring over to Cornell).
I don't know about "by FAR
I don't know about "by FAR the best."
I mean Queen's sends what 15+ people to banking each year. Alex's numbers for Schulich seem to be accurate so they send like 10-15. And UofT sends maybe 5 or so?
The only school in Canada you can say that has "far" better placements is Ivey with over 30 placements..
Queens no question, followed
Queens no question, followed by either based on your preference for the school/campus life, etc... however, if you go to uoft/schulic, be sure to be more proactive throughout your degree in terms of setting yourself up for a successful recruiting season when the time comes
I totally agree with
I totally agree with i-wanker. Here at schulich the career centre is terrible. Most of us are doing all the leg work, there was only two IB SA this year [and she got a connection], there was one sales and trading and equity research....I mean it is fine that we have to do the leg work but when you compare to the more active recruitment departments from UofT and Ivey [I don't know about Queen's] you can become fustrated.
they were referring to
they were referring to undergrad not MBA iyados. And I'm not sure where you got the "only 2 IB SA" stats from for the MBAs because I can name plenty of Summer Associates from Schulich. Including one that got into Goldman NY IBD, he's one of the heads of your SFA finance club I beleive.
FYI
Go to whatever school you want and then apply to Ivey after two years.
anyone else see the full
anyone else see the full time position recruitment list at rotman commerce (uoft commerce) this year? pretty baller
bain, bcg, mckenzie, merrill lynch, citi just to list some.
Queen's is definitely the
Queen's is definitely the top out of that group.
Queen's is a core school for many top consulting and banking firms. From the class of 2008, a number of people joined BCG, Monitor, McKinsey, Bain, Goldman Sachs, Merrill, Credit Suisse, all the Canadian banks, Oliver Wyman. Queen's also does well in marketing for P&G, Unilever, American Express, Kraft etc.
If you are comparing Ivey and Queen's the difference is not as much in recruiting but rather in experience. Queen's for 4 years for Ivey for 2 years but 100% case approach. That's a more personal decision, but in the end, Queen's and Ivey are par in industry.
this is a complete BS post
you didnt apply to ivey, that was dumb,
your 3 choices are all the same crap school and they all get the same crap recruitment.
YES, there may be differences in the career center but any firm recruiting at one should in theory recruit at the other two. With all the schools getting their share with no particular preferance.
Look if you have 3 guys with the exact same GPA, same internship type and all display genuine establish industry interest...and each one went to a different school, they will all get the call for an interview.
No bank in Canada or NY for that matter would say oh 3.9 from UofT and 3.9 from Queens, call the UofT guy that Queens guy obviously wont cut it. Dude its just not gona happen. In terms of prestige and training they are all the same and all crap.
if your grades are there you will get an interview and then you have to fuckin nail it, no doubt about that.
Go to where yout think you will be happy, location, people, culture etc. Just as important go to where you can get good grades.