Best way to follow up/ resume push
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Bump. Very interested in this too
The sooner you monkey's stop looking at Associates / VPs / Directors as some banking drone you need to schmooze to get a job, the sooner you'll start making real connections with them and making progress. Networking isn't about going through the motions of asking questions for questions sake, or getting connected for connections sake. It's about getting to know someone and the place of employment they've spent the majority of their life at. Truly getting to know it.
To answer the overarching question, there is no specific formula for when you reach out. However, managing the relationship from the very first conversation you have with them will set the tone for when you should reach out.
On these networking calls, you guys need to set the tone of relationship on the front end. Man up and really manage the relationship! This means starting your conversation with the Associate / VP / Director about non-work related items to make things light. You're not Agent Smith from the FBI here to play 21 questions, you're another human being trying to learn about how they make their livelihood. Discuss where they grew up, how they got into banking, why they chose this firm over others etc. Be charming over the phone. You should learn how to mimic and match their tonality; if they pick up the phone and sound lively as all hell, wake your ass up and put some expression in your voice; if they pick up the phone and sound depressed, slow your row and act a little cool & calm. Discuss professional items, and then ask them straight up, "If I reach out to you in a week, could we discuss any future questions I may come up with about the firm or could you put me in touch with someone else at the firm who could." If you play it right, chances are they will always say yes... unless they're having a really bad day.
Personal note: If you sound competent, and not like a sniveling little thumb sucker, I'll always forward you along to someone in my firm, because I want to work with competent people.
After your conversation, read the relationship you've established. If you made a solid connection, catch up with them and see where they are in the hiring process. What new developments have been made with regards to the position. If they can connect you with someone else internally who works in an industry you're interested in. If they wouldn't mind making an introduction to an associate so you could talk to them about the day to day work you'll be doing underneath them.
I don't mean to get overly on your case, but how do you have nothing to talk about? It almost sounds like you're not very interested in learning about what they do. You need to step out of your comfort zone and show some interest on these calls. I guarantee you it will pay back in spades.
Final step of Networking into HF; should I follow up after my CV got pushed? (Originally Posted: 02/05/2017)
Guys,
After the traditional networking process (cold email, call, follow ups etc.) I have managed an Associate from one of the bigger Special Situations HFs (c. 20bn AUM) to push my CV for an internship position in their Group (actually he offered it to me before I could even ask for it, as he said my profile would fit the team in general).
He noted they "would possibly get back to me". Now I know that the team does not always hire interns, because they only do this if they intend to convert them into an analyst the year after and I don't really know I they plan to do so.
Do you think it is too pushy to ask after 8-10 weeks if they would consider me for a potential position? I definitely don't want to overstretch things as my contact was so helpful and responsive over the whole time although I know that he was in the middle of quite some deals. On the other hand I really want this job and want to demonstrate exactly that. A Problem is also that they haven't really an HR department which I could ask.
Has anyone been in a similar situation (on either of the sides) and has some advice?
Any help would be much appreciated!
Cheers
Its not pushy after 8 - 10 weeks. People are busy and might have forgotten. HF's are much less structured with respect to HR/etc than other kinds of firms so much more likely for you to fall through the cracks. Definitely better pushing than waiting - if ppl aren't interested they will respond as such or just keep ignoring you. Makes no sense to take yourself out of the process by not pushing.
Resume Push, Apply Again? (Originally Posted: 11/06/2016)
Hi All,
Kind of a dumb question here, apologize for the naiveté. If someone in the firm said that they would push your resume to HR, should you also apply formally?
To clarify, all recruiting is done through an email rather than an online system, so should I send an email with cv and cover letter to their formal recruiting email despite someone who said they would push my resume to HR?
It doesn't hurt to do both
I've had my resume pushed and HR made me "apply online" the day before the superday
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