Is Law considered a hard undergraduate subject?

I've heard about how bankers perceive different majors differently.

How would the guy reading my resume interpret a law degree? Up there with engineering? Down there with animal psychology?

For people more used to the American system:
I'm studying in a part of the world where they do their JDs in undergrad, and they're called LLBs.

 
dubyawhy:

I've heard about how bankers perceive different majors differently.

How would the guy reading my resume interpret a law degree? Up there with engineering? Down there with animal psychology?

For Americans:
I come from a part of the world where we do our JDs in undergrad, and they're called LLBs.

Short answer:

What makes you unique and how can you make money for the guy reading your resume? Can you spin that credential to show you are tenacious, a fighter, a go-getter?

Long answer:

The U.S. legal market has been a shithole for 15+ years due to an oversupply of JD's. Too many law schools graduating too many students the legal market cannot absorb. A law degree in the US means nothing unless you graduated from an ABA accredited school no lower than the top 25% of your class. Even worse, law school career services offices postings for BigLaw openings, e.g. Jones Day, Troutman Saunders, require you to be in the top 15% of your class just to apply for the position.
Compounding that is the impact on whether or not you are graduating from a Tier 1 law school. There are 4 Tiers of US Law schools, the Third Tier is known affectionately as TTTSL - Third Tier Toilet School of Law. This is analagous to the Target/Non-Target school issue in the financial world. The LLM's (US masters of law degrees, an advanced law degree) have been negatively impacted as well by the abysmal US legal job market for the same reasons listed above. In sum, your law degree means nothing in the US legal market. Google "law school scam."

 

What do you call a tier 1? You must be using it very loosely. A sibling of mine goes to law school ranked in the 13-18 range. Her and friend at the same school at no problem getting a summer associate offer from big law firms. She is actually doing 2 summer associate programs for 2 different big law firms.

 

Tier 1 - according to US News & World Report. Name the law school, the firm, her class ranking, and any political connections she has at those firms.

 
MTx_2012:

Tier 1 - according to US News & World Report. Name the law school, the firm, her class ranking, and any political connections she has at those firms.

Well I would prefer not to give away that information. I do not know where she places but I'd imagine it is near the top 10 percent. She has recieved the highest grade in 3-4 of her classes (which is apparently a big deal in law school).

 
MonkeyInSchool:
MTx_2012:

Tier 1 - according to US News & World Report. Name the law school, the firm, her class ranking, and any political connections she has at those firms.

Well I would prefer not to give away that information. I do not know where she places but I'd imagine it is near the top 10 percent. She has recieved the highest grade in 3-4 of her classes (which is apparently a big deal in law school).

What information - The name of their school? By your own admission you don't even know their class ranking, but you imagine their class ranking. The OP presumably wants legitimate advice and those of us in the legal field who have first hand knowledge are providing it. Save the anecdotal tales for the water-cooler.

 
MTx_2012:
MonkeyInSchool:
MTx_2012:

Tier 1 - according to US News & World Report. Name the law school, the firm, her class ranking, and any political connections she has at those firms.

Well I would prefer not to give away that information. I do not know where she places but I'd imagine it is near the top 10 percent. She has recieved the highest grade in 3-4 of her classes (which is apparently a big deal in law school).

What information - The name of their school? By your own admission you don't even know their class ranking, but you imagine their class ranking. The OP presumably wants legitimate advice and those of us in the legal field who have first hand knowledge are providing it. Save the anecdotal tales for the water-cooler.

Vanderbilt doesn't rank you prick. He doesn't want advice on the legal field genius. If you paid attention instead of talking so much out of your ass you would notice he is asking about how Investment Bankers view a law major.

 

Immature name calling only adds to the fact you know nothing of what you speak. Plus, you contradicted yourself again - Vanderbilt doesn't have rankings? But you wrote earlier you imagine she is in the top 10% of her class. How can that be if Vanderbilt doesn't have rankings?

 
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Staying out the urinating competition above, I don't know of a law student going directly into IB but it's different here in the US because there isn't an undergrad law degree (to my knowledge). I know of seasoned lawyers who are rainmakers in their own right getting into IB or PE but that's after practicing for some time and making a name for themselves (same goes for some lawyers who are brought in house by real estate developers or investors and shed the law part and get into deal making business end of the business). I know the head of a top group at what's considered the best BB in the states and he originally had a law degree and practiced in his home country but went back and got an MBA from a very good but not top 5 or 7 bschool and he's not doing half bad now. But I think he was also a spy before he went to law school (not kidding).

 

I ask because I feel it genuinely is a really difficult subject - I could be getting 1st (3.7+ GPA) easily if I had taken a humanities or social science class like polisci, but I'm stuck at a 3.3 at the moment.

Thanks everyone - I'm not pursuing a law career in the US as I'm aware that the market is pretty much saturated.

I want to get into IBD and was just wondering how the "difficulty perception" of my major stacks up.

FYI I go to what you can think of as a bottom 1st-tier or top 2nd-tier law school. Compare with Michigan Law.

 

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