I took the free practice CAT from Manhattan online to see if and how much I need to study and got a 730.
However, I was surprised at my score; I thought it would be a lot lower. I got 9/37 Quant wrong and 13/41 Verbal wrong, and still managed 50Q and 40V.
I guess I need to work on my timing also since I had 15min left at the end of the verbal one from rushing through it.
For those of you who took the real GMAT, is this accurate? Also, how is the difficulty of Manhattan compared to the real one?
I used MGMAT and I'd have to say that the quant on MGMAT is harder than the actual GMAT. So if you're scoring well on the MGMAT tests, you should be set for the real thing.
Don't forget to take advantage of the 2 practice tests (GMATPrep Software) on the official MBA website...they use retired questions and will be your truest indicator aside from the test itself.
But can you get that many wrong on the real thing? Like if I get 5-10 wrong in Q, will I still get ~50ish? And ~15 wrong verbal is 40?
Remember that the GMAT is a computer adaptive test. You can hit 700-800 level questions pretty quickly, and keep getting two right and one wrong. You can miss almost a third of the questions and still get in the 49-50 range. This is why timing is so important. You need to quickly assess if you can solve a problem, and skip it if necessary.
The MGMAT does not break their 700-800 problems into different "buckets" like the real GMAT. The real GMAT has a something similar to 700, 710, 720... 800 levels of questions. Also the real GMAT tries to mix up the number of geometry, number property, inequality, sequence, ect. questions so you cover as much of the material as possible. For example, your first geometry problem will be around the 700 level if your doing well on the exam, and if you get it correct and continue to do well, your next geometry problem will be 800 level. Don't be surprised if you get through the exam and see a really easy math problem if it is the first one of its type that you've answered.
I will say that the verbal of the MGMAT series is a good, but not a great, representation of the real exam. Lots of idiom SC problems, and some CR problems that follow a different logic than what the test writers use. Nonetheless, it is an excellent practice tool for your timing. I also found their verbal scores to be slightly inflated.
Seems like it is good then...
Any comments on how accurate full length exams from Veritas or Kaplan are? I figure I'll take enough of em to consistently score 750+, no need to study.
i used MGMAT and here was my take. The verbal is easier and the math is harder. Manhatan GMAT CATS - Averaged 98-99% V, 73-75% M (averaging 730-750)
Real GMATS 1. 81V 80Q (690) 2. 95V 80Q (730)
As for the overall score reliability, Ide say the overall score is actually a very solid indicator at where you stand but the means in which you get there isnt't as relaible. For example, as you stated, you can get more wrong on Manahattan but their algorithm is different and is a little more forgiving when it comes to final scoring. Best of luck
MGMAT IMO is pretty accurate. I gave 4 MGMATs with scores: 710, 730, 730, 750. Got 760 on the main test.
Manhattan GMAT CAT (Originally Posted: 12/11/2008)
Okay,
I studied my ass off for months using the Kaplan GMAT 800 and Princeton Review Cracking the GMAT Books. I just took the Manhattan GMAT practice CAT (free download). I got a 580. Should I just give up on my b-school dreams at this point? I really feel like a fucking idiot right now. Maybe I should just stay in the military and be happy with my job security.
I hear some CAT exams are harder than the real one...is that true for Manhattan GMAT's CAT?
The Princeton Review books aren't that great. Are you using the Official Guide? That's the best source out there (it's published by the test makers). I would also highly recommend Manhattan GMAT's Sentence Correction book. Don't worry about the CAT too much... I never got above 680 on the Manhattan GMAT CATs (did like 6 of them) but ended up getting a 750+ on the real thing.
I highly suggest you incorporate more CATs into your study plan. I tried to do one or two a week- and make sure you do both essays as well. The GMAT is as much a stamina test as it is an intelligence test (if you can call it that). Also, what was your score breakdown? Have you done the GMATPrep CATs from mba.com? If you want to get a really high math score, I would highly recommend GMAT Club's practice tests. Well worth it. Anyways, hit me up if you have any questions.
Hi,
I have a question regarding GMAT math.Recently I saw a site called WallStGMAT.com and they have a book called GMAT math by Wall street. Does anyone have any idea about this book? They also have an online preparation course only for GMAT math. Please help me regarding this. Please tell me a suitable book to study Critical reasoning and essays as well.
Thanks & Regards Adrija
I still have the GMAT Prep CATs on CD rom. I plan on doing those next--but I think I am going to purchase the 6 Manhattan GMAT CATs for $40 and do those first.
As far as percentiles I got 55% Quant and 62% Verbal. I take the test 3 January and work is pretty light right now so I am really cramming hard.
Princeton is a good starting off point. GMAT 800 was pretty solid review--especially the verbal.
Manhattan GMAT's CAT (math part) is more difficult than the actual GMAT, but the scoring algorithm (super lenient) accounts for this. Thus, if you are doing the test the way they want you to do it/are supposed to do it (not dwell on questions, spend specific amount of time on each question, etc.) your score can be pretty indicative of your actual gmat score. If you dwell on a question and it takes up 5 mins of your time so you don't answer all the questions at the end... ya, you'll be screwed.
First: You're using the wrong materials. Use Manhatten gmat prep books. Awesome. I put a lot of work into the GMAT. I took it twice & twice scored a 690. Then I got Manhatten gmat prep books and several CATS from 800score.com. Took it again and scored 710. Don't sleep on those Manhatten books (WAY better than PR or 800), and don't sweat CAT scores - those tests should be used ONLy to get the timing down.
Second: Prep scores don't really indicate test day performance for everyone. Also, big gains can be had. WHile I struggled to go from high 600's to low 700's, my girlfriend went from a 610 to a 700. How? She said she just guessed most of the math questions. A big part of this test is learning how to take it. Know when to skip, know when to devote extra time.
Third: I assure you, you're dreams of Wall STreet are NOT over, regardless. 700-710 is the average at the elit schools. Contrary to popular opinion, you can get in with high 600's. Just sell your military stuff on the essays
Finally: EVen a 600-640 will get a military officer into a school ranked 20-30. assuming the economy is not still in the crapper 3 years from now (bear with me), it is possible (though not common) to go to a BB from those places. Better yet, it is pretty common for students at those level schools to go the MM Boutique route.
So, the moral is: don't give up.
I just got a 680 on the GMATPrep CAT. Go figure.
Never heard of it.
MGMAT CAT exams (Originally Posted: 02/21/2015)
Is it true that the Manhattan GMAT's CAT exams are more difficult than the actual test? I was speaking with a tutor and he said that people generally score 30-50 points higher on the actual test and the math on the CATs focuses on harder content
Personally scored 60 points higher than my highest mgmat score (took 4-5 of them).
The official practice tests on the other hand are very representative.
My experience with the MGMAT CATs was that they were slightly harder than the real thing (10-30 points). Like @"Redacted" said, the GMAC CATs are very representative of the real thing.
I completely agree with the two above posters.
Great. Thanks! How many practice tests would you guys say you took in total? 5-7?
i took 5 practice tests. i would stick with the GMAC tests though, you get two for free and can buy two more. That should be sufficient.
I took 2 MGMAT tests and a GMAC test. Scored 110 points higher on my GMAC test than my highest MGMAT and 10 points higher than that on the real test. So 120 points higher than my best MGMAT. Agree with frank, stick with GMAC tests, they are way more accurate
I used both, the 5 MGMAT early on in my prep and then I used the GMAC tests at the end. I think I took a total of 7 practice tests.
Good luck!
I would score 47th % on quant and 80th % on verbal on nearly all of my MGMAT. Ended up with 51st % quant and 89th % verbal on the real thing.
I found that the MGMAT math was "harder" in the sense that it was more complex calculations, but the principals weren't that different. On GMAT quant problems you sort of have two steps: figuring out how to solve the problem, and solving the problem/doing calculations. MGMAT questions had a more difficult second half of that process, in my opinion.
The MGMAT tests are harder than the actual GMAT. Most of this is because the quant section is harder. If you are aiming for a top score, this is actually a good thing, because you will get practice with the most difficult questions.
Not necessarily harder or easier - MGMAT uses a different algorithm, particularly by disproportionately punishing you for missing the last few questions. Furthermore, their quant questions rely on long calculations, instead of on tricky shortcuts.
MGMAT CATs are great for practice as they have very difficult quant questions, but do not - and I repeat, do not - take the score as an approximation of your total score. I took two MGMAT CATs heading into the test and scored 40 points lower than my final and other practice scores. If you are the type who can't give up on a quant question, like me, MGMAT will have hellish timing, as they have a number of multi-step questions that are unlike what you'll see on the GMAT.
I agree the math is harder, I also found the MGMAT verbal to be way more convoluted than the GMAC practices and actual tests. I specifically remember a handful of questions where the answer and explanation made 0 sense and those type of questions never came up on GMAC.
MGMAT vs real thing: math is more difficult; verbal is less difficult.
i don't agree with that, what are you basing the verbal being less difficult on? i did very little verbal prep and topped out at 88% on mgmat verbal vs 99% on gmac practices and actual test
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