I have a stint, not an SA gig, at a BB coming up, and I was wondering what to wear?
What color suit, shirt, shoes, tie?
If you think of anything else that's beneficial, please include that too!
Please help me out, and thanks in advance
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So for Wall Street in general guys have next to no fashion sense and there is no reason to break the bank.
If you're in NYC you're going to want to buy some cheap suits and cheap shirts sticking with plain colors (White, blue). Stick with those two colors (yeah i know great selection) then move on based on what your group wears. Don't wear what your VP wears just check what kind of colors your 2nd/3rd year analysts wear and copy the colors.
Places to shop: If you are medium build = JOS A Bank = cheap + survives a summer If you are thin build = Uniqlo/H&M = cheap + survives a summer If you are larger = Again JOS A Bank BUT get the arms taken in (if there are other spots I am sure guys can help you out)
Whatever you do, absolutely do not go in there with gucci loafers, a breitling and shirts with cufflinks on. You will look like a complete tool.
No Skinny Tie No Bowtie
Start with a few white shirts, a few blue and then after 2-3 days just go buy more shirts based on what your group wears to "blend in". Maybe a few patterned checkered shirts but generally just be conservative.
Fashion Failures include: 1. Not keeping shoes clean, Just buy a shoe brush $8 and buy shoe trees $12 2. Wearing crazy color shirts (group relative) see above 3. Wearing suits with Lapels or rocking a pocket square, you're not on entourage yet 4. Not having any color besides black, generally brown shoes are good because it will allow you to wear a few different colored shirts
TL;DR: Wear a black suit, white shirt, blue tie to start. Then work your way to different colors after the first week. Keep your shoes shined and shave daily. Mimic your group. Get shirts that fit you well and simply blend in as being "well put together" but making a fashion statement will just make you look bad.
I just ended up going with custom fitted shirts like Indochino or Ratio Clothing. They fit better than any off the rack shirt you would pick up at a clothing store.
Wtf bro do you even work in banking? #1 rule, never wear black suits ever. #2 rule, you don't wear suits unless you are meeting clients, which as an SA=never. Just wear business casual (nice pants, nice button down), and keep a couple ties in the office. Normally people don't wear ties either.
Dude, use the search box, this has been talked about ad infinitum. I would have still taken a stab at it, but I have neen drinking heavily.
Wallstreetplayboys - told you to wear a black suit?! Neverrr! Unless it's a funeral. Navy or charcoal only!
whati f you are in the mib?
Would a navy or charcoal suit, with a white shirt, solid red tie, and black shoes be okay or not?
Don't do it. Too much of a stereotypical politician look. here check this out. ironically it's a capitol hill edition, but it'll give you some better ideas. Drag the slider for before/after: http://www.gq.com/style/wear-it-now/201211/project-upgrade-washington-d…
just search gq project upgrade and you'll come across several before/after shots.
edit: take a look at page 8 on that link. That's your typical finance guy before, and Gordon Gekko esque after.
OK, I'm seriously beginning to think that you don't work in banking. A charcoal suit with a red tie and black shoes is like, really normal and boring for any professional. It's not a "Capitol Hill look." What the fuck are you talking about? My MD would wear shit like that on the way to client meetings.
Ignore this dude. Don't overthink it. Your goal for the summer is for people NOT to notice what you're wearing. Blend in. That shit is fine. Maybe a blue tie instead of red if you want to be super conservative.
Look through GQ. GQRules.com has some pretty good tips. But the key secret is fit. Make sure your shoulders fit. Tailors can do magical things, but if the shoulders don't fit right you're pretty much sol. If you can't get measured, general rule of thumb is to pick a size smaller than you would normally think is appropriate and cross your arms to hold your elbows. Move up a size until you can comfortably do it. The suit jacket should hug your shoulders, not droop off your shoulders or squeeze them like a compression underarmour shirt. Get slim fit pants, not the baggy classics or nut wrenching skinnies. Like previously mentioned, charcoal suits will do well. JCrew has some sweet suits that fit very well off the rack if you have a health body set. Their fabrics are quite nice too. Show them your student ID card and you get 15% off the total. Go with traditional barrel cuff pin point collar shirts, no cuff links yet. Spread collar shirts work nicely too, but make sure you use an appropriate tie knot to compensate for the wider gap. Make sure you get a well fitted shirt or else you get that pirate shirt look as the excess fabric poofs out at your waist as the day goes by. Get a slim tie, not skinny, for a pinpoint shirt. For spread collar shirts, a slim tie might not look as great. Tie pattern should not be the same as the shirt. If you have a striped shirt don't wear a striped tie, gingham checked shirt don't wear checkered tie, etc. The bottom tip of your tie should hit in the middle of your belt buckle. Lower than that and it's too long, shorter and it looks like you got a hand me down tie. Tie bars and pocket squares can clean up your image rather nicely. Don't wear brown shoes unless you have a similarly matching colored belt and a colored shirt such as blue or pink. Strap on a watch. Have fun and be bold with your socks. Confidence and swag. These are my tips in a nutshell. Hope it helps.
My preferences: -center slit jacket vent (better maintains body form) -notch lapel, 2 buttons -slim fit -express extra slim fit shirts (cheapest alternative to custom tailored shirts and they fit surprisingly well off the rack) -silver tie bar -pocket square -watch -belt -lined or argyle colored socks. -leather soled shoes (bonus points for wingtips)
^Some good advice, but I WOULD NOT DO -silver tie bar -pocket square -gay socks -wingtips
All that shit is extra stuff that unnecessarily calls attention to your style. That's not a good thing. Your MD shouldn't even notice what socks you're wearing, or your pocket square. You're there to work, not to play dress up. The only thing people should be thinking about when you walk in the office is, "That intern busts ass," and/or "He's a cool dude." You don't want to be "guy who thinks he's Kanye West." It just irritates everyone, even if you're pulling it off. There's no upside.
As a summer, you should look fucking boring. No tie bar. No pocket square. Blue/black socks, no patterns. Brogues, no wingtips. You weren't hired for your personality.
Ah intern/temp..assumed a well situated ft offer. Touche. Come from a rather lax office that had a tailor. Didn't mean to imply flamboyance, but rather a clean structured look. I hate kanye. Take what you will.
@ DBCooper are you serious? Its very common.
Also the guy who mentioned Indochino is a smart guy, custom is of course a much better fit, but if you're just an intern there is absolutely no reason to go custom immediately.
We had a intern come in with ferragamos and gold cufflinks + banker collar every day for his internship... Bad first impression.
The general wisdom is that black suits are way too formal. Just FYI, I didn't throw the MS at you.
Honestly it's all group specific. For your first day, just do a charcoal suit, black oxfords, white shirt and navy tie. From there, you can deviate based upon your group.
When I was a summer, I loved wearing cuff links and animal ties. While I got some shit for it, my work spoke for itself and I ended up with an offer.
In regards to brands: Allen Edmonds for shoes Charles Tyrwhitt or Brooks Brothers for shirts Suits, nobody cares or will ever know, just make sure it fits Ties, brooks brothers, vineyard vines, no hermes or ferragamo at least until you're a 2nd year.
It depends on which bank you are at. Without further info it is impossible to tell what bank he is going to be working at.
Why rec a black suit (assuming suits are normal) this is because you want to "slowly blend in" and the assumption is you wore a black suit to the interview, just wear what you wore during interviews. Why would you go into any situation with guns blazing and making it seem like you're already completely versed in anything be it perfect dress code, 100 knowledge of the space or even M&A in general. You want to slowly become more and more liked over time and blend in. This is very similar to trying to do incredibly perfect work by working 120+ hours a week out of the gate. There is no point in that, you are setting expectations too high.
Yes I agree with @justdude you only wear suits to client meetings.... however, this is depending on the bank you are at. If you are working in the west coast or satellite then yes biz causal is fine. If you are working with some serious d-bags suits are daily. Some places suits are required excluding for the summer, generally this is the case for headquarters. It's annoying but that's just how it is.
If its a biz casual environment DO NOT show up in a suit that's common sense just chit chat an analyst after the offer to get the downlow.
Don't care about "monkey shit or banana points", it's just the internet. The only goal is to help people out, if the goal was to screw over SA's and analysts just dump a bunch of pitchbooks and pibs on them at midnight, but there is no reason for that.
Hopefully this clears things up.
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