Hello Monkeys,
I am fortunate enough to receive an offer to jump from an in-house re team to a repe firm and now need to give notice. The dilemma is my bosses have always said let us know when you’re interviewing but my peers’ advice was to interview and get an offer before telling them. So I am now in a position where I have an offer and want to take it and have not told them I was interviewing which I personally feel guilty for.
Any advice from the seniors here in the best way to approach this?
For context, I get along with the team very well and consider my colleagues as friends but it is seriously underpaid, minimal deal flow for the next couple of years, and there’s a promotion freeze currently. This could all change in the future but that’s leaving my career in someone else’s hands. Only reason to stay is team dynamics but there is every reason to leave. Since it’s real estate and I’m in a pretty niche sector, I don’t want to burn any bridges. Out of the two people who have left previously, one went down like a lead balloon and the other left on good terms. I want to be the latter not the former.
Some thoughts currently given include: “call the boss you are closer with on Sunday to give him notice before making it official Monday”, and “if they’re mature they will understand and you don’t need to do anything other than quit”
thanks!
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What happened with that he left like a lead balloon? Was it his fault or were his bosses being dicks about it?
Hah, you have no obligation to tell your current bosses that you are interviewing. That would be incredibly dumb on your part and sounds pretty damn manipulative on their part.
Ask for a meeting with the bosses, sit down with them, and tell them you found a new opportunity. That’s all you have to do really. A nice touch is to offer to give more than two weeks’ notice, but they may not see a reason for that to happen.
I agree, but my reading between the lines is let us know if you are unhappy and we can do something because we value you. Great managers should be doing this without being asked, but it is up to the employee to make it clear they want more out of the role.
If you still feel guilty about not telling them you were interviewing, maybe tell them you received an offer and wanted to let them know that you are having a hard time deciding, so you're not completely blind siding them with the fact you're leaving. this could open a whole new can of worms where they ask to see the offer and what not etc etc. food for thought at the least
Interesting thought, but i wouldn't recommend this. It might end up getting them to try to offer a raise to get him to stay, which usually won't be enough, then he leaves anyways and could result in a little more of a negative reaction than if he just said it up front.
If he's already decided, I recommend just being clear and giving as much notice as possible.
Your career is a business, being underpaid and a promotional freeze is bad for your business. If they are truly your friends they will be excited for you, if they’re not, well I guess you guys weren’t that great of friends.
Don’t feel guilty, it would be weird to tell your boss you were interviewing. I would kindly let them know that you received a job offer and that you will be taking it.
In the past I asked what help they needed to transition my workload to my coworkers, which they were thankful for, but said finish out your two weeks and we’re good.
Congrats on the job offer, that’s no small feat in this job market!
No need to do them any favors, remember if the firm had to they'd let you go tomorrow and even if your friends wanted you to stay they aren't going to choose you over them.
Just tell them Monday and give them two weeks notice. Another thread comes to mind where someone wanted to give more time to their firm so they didn't put them in a bad position, gave a months+ notice and was let go a few days after.
No need to burn bridges, but giving them 2 week notice and doing what they need to set them up in that time is standard and more than fair. The company is willingly underpaying you aka screwing you no need to go above and beyond when they clearly don't care.
I mean they are worried you are shopping yourself around if they made a comment with regards to you interviewing. I mean don't feel guilty I'm sure there are many things they can't and won't tell you. Its a down year so it won't hurt as bad relationship wise. Most roles I have taken usually allowed me to push out my start date 3-4 weeks so I could give 2 weeks and take a vacation in between.
If you really feel obligated push for that but only if the new role hasn't written an start date, then give 2 weeks and leave. It won't 100% blindside them if they have been in the business long. especially if they have a promotion freeze known across the staff. Just be very courteous and forthcoming, if you are that worried say it wasn't expected as we all know this job market and you didn't think you'd get even a final interview or some BS. They'll know it was BS but its about saving face.
Agree with this. Would add that you should thank them for the opportunity, say you had a great experience, etc. If you do all that and they respond poorly, that's on them not you.
Have your new start date set in stone with the new company first. Give yourself enough time for a real break in between jobs. Minimum 2 weeks, but go up to 4 if you can swing it.
Then give your team the customary 2 weeks notice. You can go up to 3 if you really think that'll help you feel better, but you really don't owe them that extra week. When you give your notice, be gracious and offer to help with the transition.
Congrats on the new job!
Make sure you pass the background check before quitting.
LOL “tell us if you’re interviewing,” that tells you you’re making the right move by itself.
This is so obvious- once you have an offer in writing reach out to the guy that left on good terms and ask him how he handled it. Then do the exact same thing. Done.
Thanks for all the replies. I have a set start date for the next position that gives me 2-3 weeks of time off depending on when my garden leave will end (negotiated upon leave). Less worried now about the whole ordeal, sounds like any good manager should understand.
The new firm still hiring? I need to leave mine as well. Lol
Thanks all for the suggestions, told the bosses today and it went over well (or as well as it could have). I told the one boss I am close with on Sunday and the rest today. They were more frustrated that they didn't know who they could trust to do my work and I have been open to working with them to set someone up to take over in the meantime. Other than that, they said if it was the right move then congrats but wished they could have kept me. 9/10 quitting experience, would do again.
Great to hear, I think the fact they were even frustrated is crazy and them gaslighting you. They should be happy and tell you best of luck, stay in touch. Not openly complain about their issues and only think of them.
I had a similar experience where a boss said the intern program was closing after I was just extended but leaving and talking negatively about the firm I was going to. Have to do what's best for you and if that's their response to you getting a new opportunity you're 100% better off and that is not a firm you wanted to work for long term.
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