BB IM class sizes: curious

Hey guys, know that WSO is primarily a IB forum with a bit of S&T thrown in, but just curious about SA/FT analyst class sizes for IM since this is a sort of niche group under AM in general, with most recruiting going to PWM/PB (or whatever it's branded as). If it helps, maybe some place like GS/JPM. Thanks!

 
Best Response

Recruiting works in two ways: 1) Traditional On-Campus 2) Decentralized Case-by-Case

With traditional on-campus recruiting, one generally drops their resume and IM/WM divisions of firms come to your school and choose resumes to do interviews. Typically there's one or two interviews and if you pass that they invite you to either an office visit or a Superday (5 or 6 interviews with several Analysts, Vice Presidents, and Recruiting Managers). With IM/WM, the interviews are fairly behavioral but they may ask you some questions about the overall economy or maybe how your resume is pertinent to IM/WM. Should you get an offer, you will participate in a structured 3-year program where you may spend time in a HQ office learning all about the business. Some firms, like GS, send you to London for training. You do your part for 3 years and then they kick you out and pretty much expect you to go back to get your MBA. Although, you could also just apply to another firm as a lateral hire should you not want to go back to school.

With a decentralized case-by-case basis, brokerage teams that need F/T or SA's will generally let their HR reps or branch managers know that they need help with their business. Then HR will select from their online application database and reach out directly to those that express interest in particular offices in particular cities. One way to bypass this red tape is to call the branches directly, mention how you are interested in being a SA or F/T and hopefully they will pass your resume along to the right people that are willing to conduct a phone interview. The phone interview is very similar to the first or second on-campus interview, which is all behavioral. If you pass that, the team/firm will find means to get you into their offices to interview in person. Once you interview, they will generally let you know within a week or so. This is more of a one-on-one training where you will learn all about the business but you will learn from on-the-job situations rather than structured classes.

Both methods result in solid firms and experiences on your resume and hopefully if you do well as a SA, the firm/team will ask you back as a F/T analyst in that office. Analyst class sizes range from 2-15 SAs. F/T is narrowed down more depending on the economy, the office, and your performance.

Both methods are used to recruit for:

Global Wealth Management (Bank of America Merrill Lynch, Morgan Stanley Smith Barney, etc.) Private Wealth Management (JPMorgan Chase, Goldman Sachs, UBS, etc.) Private Banking (Wells Fargo, Bank of America, Goldman Sachs, JPMorgan, Northern Trust, etc.)

 

Architecto laboriosam aliquid ea ut nam. Amet ea fugiat quia quae ipsam iste. Consequatur ea velit ut esse hic id. Explicabo dicta aut adipisci sunt. Distinctio sed nesciunt inventore nesciunt ut. Distinctio molestiae vel accusamus iste qui. Modi rerum deleniti ipsa quia numquam molestias.

Career Advancement Opportunities

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Jefferies & Company 02 99.4%
  • Goldman Sachs 19 98.8%
  • Harris Williams & Co. New 98.3%
  • Lazard Freres 02 97.7%
  • JPMorgan Chase 03 97.1%

Overall Employee Satisfaction

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Harris Williams & Co. 18 99.4%
  • JPMorgan Chase 10 98.8%
  • Lazard Freres 05 98.3%
  • Morgan Stanley 07 97.7%
  • William Blair 03 97.1%

Professional Growth Opportunities

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Lazard Freres 01 99.4%
  • Jefferies & Company 02 98.8%
  • Goldman Sachs 17 98.3%
  • Moelis & Company 07 97.7%
  • JPMorgan Chase 05 97.1%

Total Avg Compensation

April 2024 Investment Banking

  • Director/MD (5) $648
  • Vice President (19) $385
  • Associates (87) $260
  • 3rd+ Year Analyst (14) $181
  • Intern/Summer Associate (33) $170
  • 2nd Year Analyst (66) $168
  • 1st Year Analyst (205) $159
  • Intern/Summer Analyst (146) $101
notes
16 IB Interviews Notes

“... there’s no excuse to not take advantage of the resources out there available to you. Best value for your $ are the...”

Leaderboard

1
redever's picture
redever
99.2
2
BankonBanking's picture
BankonBanking
99.0
3
Betsy Massar's picture
Betsy Massar
99.0
4
Secyh62's picture
Secyh62
99.0
5
CompBanker's picture
CompBanker
98.9
6
dosk17's picture
dosk17
98.9
7
GameTheory's picture
GameTheory
98.9
8
kanon's picture
kanon
98.9
9
DrApeman's picture
DrApeman
98.8
10
numi's picture
numi
98.8
success
From 10 rejections to 1 dream investment banking internship

“... I believe it was the single biggest reason why I ended up with an offer...”