I was wondering if anyone else has had an experience where you were treated like garbage in an interview or job search. A while back I had an interview, and the first thing the employer told me, right off the bat was, "We're not going to hire you."
I thought to myself, ok... so why are we wasting time doing this interview? I was treated like garbage and given no respect the entire time. Funny enough, in the end, I was actually offered the job. I politely declined.
I understand these people do not care about you at all and you're just another applicant, but I found this to be aggressive and rude - and really made no sense since they ended up giving me an offer.
- Have you ever experienced something similar? What happened?
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wtf? really? What industry?
This is not a good excuse, are you telling me that people can't control their emotions while in a interview? Most of all Wall Street can't get away with his moronic stuff anymore if they are so concerned with bleeding talent to other industries like tech.
Yep - I interviewed with a consultant based in Mass a couple weeks back, the HR lady got on the phone and was completely disengaged from the interview. Never once asked me about any of my experiences, asked like 10 typical questions framed like this "name me a time when you experienced difficulty with a co-worker?".. some of these people hired to hire you are jokes smh
Good for you on declining. I understand being aggressive during an interview, but if they were already crossing the line during an interview, there is no doubt that they were looking to hire a bitch. Good on you for telling them to fuck off (politely).
Would you hire somebody before you interviewed them?
Sounds to me like he wanted you to know that you needed to interview first, which you did, before they gave you the offer. Because I bet the HR person did say "we will hire you" after the interview, right?
Have you ever been in a meeting with a customer that they start off the meeting saying "we are not going to buy anything" or "we have already hired an adviser" or the like only to have the meeting go successfully? Its just how things work sometimes. You cannot be turned off by this, its just part of business. Don't be so sensitive.
Why the monkey shit, guy is spot on..
Of course its fair. OP actually got the job!
Your analogy doesn't make sense - the company here clearly did not have a "boyfriend." If you want to keep it in dating, its more like swiping right on Tinder (good resume), setting up a date (interview), girl shows up all defensive because her ex has the same shirt or something stupid (we will not hire you; we are not going to buy anything, etc.) or maybe she is casually dating many other people and is considering dating one that she has considered more seriously (company interviewed a good candidate the day before but after you set up the interview) you knocking the girls socks off with how great you are (good interview, better than the kid the day before) and she ultimately says to hell with the other guy I ought to hitch my wagon on this guy, he is going somewhere (hired)!
I encourage you to tell me what I am missing here...
I had something similar happen to me in a corporate finance position (Senior Financial Analyst) with Capital One.
It was years ago, but was pretty funny.
I showed up to the interview, a good candidate and there were about 5 managers I was interviewing with. They invited me to meet for an interview lunch in the executive dining room on the 30 or 40th floor in Manhattan.
Things started off ok, small talk, you know. Then the head manager said before we ordered that 'its great to meet you but we have already decided on hiring someone else. We just found out. I thought about leaving, but then thought, hey - free exec lunch, fine.
They were like but we want to meet you for future consideration, yap yap yap you know
So they all order some sort of light lunch, salad, chicken salad etc. I saw they had a big steak, was like yeah i'll take the large filet mignon, baked potato (loaded), with asparagus. lololol ...I'm getting my worth out of this sit - down.
So the steak comes, and they only got salad, and the head manager was like 'I really wish I got the steak too'. Then 2 other people were like, yeah good choice. So I chowed down and we had a good meeting. Too bad they didn't hire me, but it was a quirky team .. and wasn't GS or JP or anything so no worries.
This is awesome. Good for you on getting a good meal out of it haha
Did you get any booze? Should have ordered about 6 drinks at once so they couldn't refuse lol. Let them watch you slide into a state of pure gluttony.
not sure if this is your circumstance but ik a lot of firms that have ties to the gov/etc HAVE to show that they interviewed outside ppl before giving an offer internally to someone jumping up- if thats the case the guy might have just been like 'fuck it this doesn't matter anyways'- i wouldn't worry too much about it
Nothing worse than being told "You don't have enough pedigree" by some jackass associate who just broke into banking from b-school.
Not me but it happened to a candidate whom I was interviewing in my previous company along with the MD. The MD brought the guy to tears, as a third party it looked like an ongoing roast. But the guy was offered the job and guess what? He accepted.
Personally, no. I had a coworker who had interviewed for a different team at my old job and was told he was an idiot by the manager he was interviewing with, apparently the guy ripped into him. He ended up working in our area in an sr analyst position and was incredibly valuable to the team.
was meeting a distant family friend (whom i had never personally met) for an informational interview in his office. He was an MD. Things started off fine. He brought me onto the trading floor, introduced me to his team, then had me sit and observe him for like ten minutes or so. then he just goes "alright time to kick your ass" and directs me to a separate conference room. Keep in mind I had never met this guy, only exchanged a few emails with him (several of which he didnt respond to) and completely planned on just asking him a few basic questions about his career and what he would recommend to a sophomore interested in the field.
I sit down at the long conference table with him and the first thing he says is, "where the fuck is your notebook?!". Absolutely stupid of me to not bring a padfolio along, but my reasoning was that I didn't wanna be overkill in an informational interview with a "family friend". Big mistake. He spends the next five minutes dropping profanities left and right calling me a moron, an unprepared kid, the worst first impression hes ever seen, blah blah blah. Nice to meet you too, pal.
Following his "you look like an absolute fucking moron" speech, he tells me for ten minutes how he doesnt give a fuck about our families' relationship. "work is work, I do not give a fuck about your parents when im in here....". Not really sure why he even brought it up considering that I thought it was just an informational interview, but whatever. Copy that.
Then the dude just starts throwing technicals at me. If it was a confusing question that I had to think through, he'd snap his fingers at me and tell me to look him in the fucking eyes when i failed to maintain eye contact with him for even a second as I tried to gather my answer. Thankfully I aced most of the questions. However, It came to a point where he started asking about stuff that I'd never know the answer to simply so he could tell me I was wrong and that I needed to read more.
Finally, he takes all of two minutes to ask me about my interests and school and whatnot. After that, he goes "alright youre a bright kid, you can work here this summer." I was absolutely fucking baffled. Fast forward to now after a month or two on the job.
This guy is so ruthless I honestly admire it. Maybe this is just the trading industry and im surprised because its my first foray in a real business environment, but the dude straight up brings 25 year old associates to tears with his comments. Not about anything substanitive, either. Ex. he'll go into orbit if someone asks what bond he's referring to since he didnt specify when he asked the question. He'll also take me into a separate office once a week and just quiz me for twenty minutes about the most random stuff. The first week he purposefully asked about things I wouldnt know the answer to so he could scream in my face and see how i react to intense situations. I've never seen anything like it. Ive seen him smash three of four staplers over the desk so far, too. And of course my desk is right next to his.
Granted the notebook thing was warranted, I am still dumbfounded by how he carries himself given that he's an MD. It'll definitely be a memorable first internship and a good boot camp for future dickhead bosses, but I cant imagine that there are many guys like this one. Feel like i'm having a heart attack for the entire workday cause im so nervous hes gonna murder me out of pure anger one day.
JFC. Good on you for maintaining your composure and ultimately getting the job, but this guy sounds like a fucking psychopath. Hell, a prostitute would walk out on a client acting like that.
+1.
This isn't the Karate Kid. That's just abusive behavior. What kind of pussy spends his day tormenting interns and new hires?
I wish I could bring someone in/ wear a wire and record a day on the job because people simply wouldnt believe what happens during work. dude brings associates to tears.
Um, what. Are you a masochist? This guy sounds like a cunt.
sarcasm regarding the admiration. it is quite amusing to witness though
This guys sounds like JK Simmons' character (Fletcher) in Whiplash
"Was I rushing, or dragging??"mad funny lol
I went to a terrible school, but networked my way into the first round of an IB after my sophomore year. The first thing the interviewer said to me was "we don't hire from your school, what are you doing here?" I was not offered the job.
This can be tough for anyone, experienced or not.
It is unreasonable, unfair, and perfectly legal.
If you want to tease them, send an email "Thanks for nothing.", be forewarned, could permanently close the door.
I'll be writing a book on bosses pretty soon, very useful, as you can see, the world is full of a-holes.
I had a good friend at the bank and figured he could get me back in the room next year, so I didn't want to burn the bridge. I replied with something like "well I'm here, so clearly your screener thinks I'm doing something right"
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This is just a "stress test"... Nothing personal, they just want to see how you'd react to being under pressure or being in an uncomfortable situation.
I would walk out.
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Had an interview with a mezz fund while I was in undergrad that was just flagrant as a mother fucker. The guy interviewing me was the principal of the firm and asked me about an expression function for a specific type of loan that was flat out wrong. I proceeded to tell him what the expression for the function was verbatim and shit went really south from there. Dude proceeded to be short and ask smart ass questions for the rest of the interview. Idk if he thought he was some innovator in the industry because he got an irrelevant undergraduate degree from UOC or what, but I just wasn't having his condescending shit. Big lesson in life though - there are pricks everywhere in high finance, learn how to dodge and overcome them.
People are assholes. I've been on a conference call with a CFO who opened with "We're not going to give you our business, we don't want to renew." Maybe it was a test? They wanted to see how you react, but are probably also dicks.
I'll take a contrarian view here, and say that you were NOT treated like garbage.
Much better to be treated like an adult (and be told things straightforward) than coddled like a baby with bullshit, politically correct, ass-covering excuses that are untruthul at best.
I wish more people would act this way.
I mean, just because you have to give someone bad news doesn't give you the right to treat them badly. There's always a way to say things smooth with a little grace.
Never burn a bridge because you might not know when you have to cross that bridge again.
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Let me get this straight, your first and only post is an accident? And your handle is "NoExcuses".
Ok .. ok ...
Haha, I admittedly see the irony in my post.
I'll do better.
Yes. Just like your example. The interviewer opened with "XYZ [his employer] is the standard by which other firms are judged and we will never hire someone with your background." I told him I appreciated the honesty and asked if there was anything I could do to improve my odds. He told me that he'd forward me a few resumes more in line with what he was expecting so I could see the error of my ways. I am still waiting for that email.
At first I figured it was a bizarre choice on the interviewer's part to bring me in only to tell me to leave, but it's possible that he did not know who he was interviewing and only saw my 'file' before I sat down. I worked for one of his employer's better-known competitors at the time. You never know what else is going on in their life.
Interviewed with a top Bulge Bracket bank for an ECM position.
Spoke with the VP, conversation went flawlessly and we laughed about our common connections. Spoke with two Analysts and answered technicals/questions about the market and asked me to sing a song / crack a joke and again went flawless.
Then spoke with with an Associate (over weight woman) that looked visibly tired and frustrated. Any answer that remotely kissed ass and voiced my eagerness/excitement of working in IB resulted in her laughing. She looked overwhelmed with a current deal and decided to take it out on me. (Another associate joined the conversation and when I said it would be the best step in my career to work in their group, they both started laughing)
Was contacted by the VP but respectfully declined. Not interested in working under two hags that obviously joined IB solely for the money and did not enjoy their occupation. When the going gets tough I need leadership to recite a Leonidas speech not whip me like a lap dog beneath the feet of the God King Xerxes.
Interviewed for an IB position at a large bank (though not BB) and got absolutely wrecked about how I failed to convert a previous internship and on how applying to over 15 firms was ridiculous.
can you detect/filter through douche bags during the interview process? (Originally Posted: 12/24/2010)
can you detect/filter through douche bags during the interview process?
It seems like a lot of douches work in the industry at the junior levels (i.e.. analysts), is there a problem with the interview process? Could something be done to detect these personalities early in the interview process?
douche bags hire douche bags
holy shart...i full-sized that picture, wow. that's sad.
You sound like a hater. Are you a hater?
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