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Canadian Undergrad rankings for finance/ IB banking
 

encarnacion's picture
(Chimp, 2
 
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 on 5/31/12 at 1:00am
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What order would you rank these schools in terms undergrad finance program: Schulich, Rotman, Ivey, Queens, Laurier, McGill, McMaster and Waterloo?

I know that for IB the best are Ivey and Queens but after that how would you rank the remaining schools?

Thanks

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Babyj18777's picture

Ivey>Queens>Mcgill>Rotman>Sch

O
(Orangutan, 283
 
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 on 5/30/12 at 5:14pm

Ivey>Queens>Mcgill>Rotman>Schulich>Laurier>McMaster - Waterloo doesn't really have an undergraduate business program, but they do participate in joint programs with Laurier.

bob_bsd's picture

Ivey Queens [gap] McGill,

(Monkey, 30
 
Points)
 on 5/30/12 at 5:20pm

Ivey
Queens
[gap]
McGill, Schulich, Ivey, Laurier/Waterloo Dual BBA
[large gap]
McMaster, Laurier BBA, Waterloo AFM

mhurricane's picture

Ivey>Queens>Mcgill>Schulich>M

 
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 on 5/30/12 at 5:22pm

Ivey>Queens>Mcgill>Schulich>McMaster>Laurier

To echo the sentiments above, Waterloo does not have a business program; however, they place their students tremendously well in accounting. Also, I have heard of Waterloo grads getting S&T jobs at bulge brackets.

The difference between successful people and others is largely a habit - a controlled habit of doing every task better, faster and more efficiently.

jmayhem's picture

Ivey>Queens>McGill>Schulich>R

O
 
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 on 5/30/12 at 5:40pm

Ivey>Queens>McGill>Schulich>Rotman>McMaster>Laurier

"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism by those who have not got it." - George Bernard Shaw

Bollinger's picture

I know you asked for finance

(Monkey, 62
 
Points)
 on 5/30/12 at 6:07pm

I know you asked for finance but Waterloo is very strong in S&T from their more quant degrees. CS/Math. Ivey>Queens>Mcgill>Rotman>everybody else...

juniormistmaker's picture

Agree with the notions above.

IB
(Baboon, 131
 
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 on 5/30/12 at 8:12pm

Agree with the notions above. Can't turn around without bumping into another Ivey d-bag down here haha.

Powa23's picture

Haha man if I had a dime for

(Orangutan, 291
 
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 on 5/30/12 at 9:40pm

Haha man if I had a dime for every one of these threats I'd be rich

holla_back's picture

McGill should win just

O
(King Kong, 1,121
 
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 on 5/30/12 at 9:44pm

McGill should win just because Montreal is more fun than anywhere in Ontario.

Toronto's picture

Laurier places well in

 
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 on 5/31/12 at 1:30am

Laurier places well in ER

Schulich is growing but still more accounting imo

Waterloo accounting students actually do well in IB, and the technical programs can set you up for trading

I'm not too sure about McGill but I think they're strong everywhere, just not recruited as much within Canada but I think american firms do post OCR.

Please please please do NOT go to rotman or mcmaster for finance, especially not mcmaster.

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It really depends what you want to do so I don't think ranking them in a list is the best way to make a decision. Personally, I would say go to Ivey/Queens/Waterloo/McGill.

Toronto's picture

Also, the admission average

 
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 on 5/31/12 at 1:32am

Also, the admission average for Laurier is at least 7% higher than McMaster... take that for what you will.

Abdel's picture

McGill or bust.

O
(Neanderthal, 2,064
 
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 on 5/31/12 at 2:15am

McGill or bust.

Powa23's picture

^ Heard good stories of

(Orangutan, 291
 
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 on 5/31/12 at 3:02am

^ Heard good stories of McGill grads placing into New York, apparently more in NY than other parts of Canada

cmxxi's picture

John Molson in Montreal

O
 
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 on 5/31/12 at 5:33am

John Molson in Montreal places well in Canadian IB's, no idea about NYC. They have a really competitive fund management program $1.4m last I looked.

Their MBA is ranked lower than McGill but the BComm is higher. Way better facilitates than McGill Desautels

born2bebusiness's picture

My buddy at Laurier is

O
 
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 on 5/31/12 at 6:30am

My buddy at Laurier is working at a BB in Toronto after finishing his 2nd year. Laurier doesn't have as big of a name as the others but I've heard great things about their co-op program.

immaculatedx's picture

tier 1. Ivey, Queens, McGill

 
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 on 5/31/12 at 11:44am

tier 1. Ivey, Queens, McGill Desautels [Honours Investment Stream only]
- huge gap -
tier 2. Schulich, Laurier
- big but not huge gap -
tier 3. McMaster Degroote, Rotman, etc.

Waterloo's programs are not business programs. Their DD programs are good but there's a misconception that firms hire from DD exclusively. When employers come to UW for co-op, they hardly ever come for a specific program - all the co-op openings are open to many different programs. The finance co-ops can go to AFMs, Math/CS students, and even Engineers.

The Math/BBA DDs do quite well in finance jobs but has been falling off of late. S&T/similar technical finance job oppurtunities are solid across the Math/Eng programs.

AFM and UW's other public accounting programs (Biotech/CA, Math/CA) are a huge waste of money (75K for 5 years - more than any other Canadian undergraduate program by far) but they do have good access to the Big 4. If you're a superstar, you can leverage than into Transaction Services/Corporate Finance which is a good stepping stone to bigger stuff, but if you were a superstar to begin with, why go through the trouble?

Most high school students don't really take any of this into account though. An ambitious Canadian high school students is going to know a lot less than an ambitious American student so this is hardly an exact ranking.

"Know thyself"

immaculatedx's picture

Also, second the comments on

 
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 on 5/31/12 at 9:34am

"Know thyself"

Powa23's picture

immaculatedx: Also, second

(Orangutan, 291
 
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 on 5/31/12 at 10:41am
immaculatedx's picture

Powa23: immaculatedx: Also,

 
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 on 5/31/12 at 11:42am

"Know thyself"

fredyin's picture

immaculatedx: AFM and UW's

O
 
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 on 5/31/12 at 2:16pm
Onetwobit's picture

how about Guelph?

CF
(Orangutan, 255
 
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 on 5/31/12 at 3:21pm
bob_bsd's picture

tmur: how about

(Monkey, 30
 
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 on 5/31/12 at 4:41pm
lifeofpurpose's picture

What if you don't want to

(Gorilla, 523
 
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 on 5/31/12 at 5:16pm
Hitch's picture

bob_bsd is close, except

IB
 
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 on 5/31/12 at 5:31pm

The most valuable commodity I know of is information.

wsoa123's picture

Hitch: bob_bsd is close,

 
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 on 6/1/12 at 10:46am
immaculatedx's picture

wsoa123: Hitch: bob_bsd is

 
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 on 6/1/12 at 12:48pm

"Know thyself"

Hitch's picture

This was more or less the

IB
 
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 on 6/1/12 at 1:23pm

The most valuable commodity I know of is information.

chimpanzee's picture

Jesus this thread makes me

(Monkey, 52
 
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 on 6/1/12 at 2:08pm
immaculatedx's picture

Hitch: This was more or less

 
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 on 6/1/12 at 4:46pm

"Know thyself"

wsoa123's picture

Hitch: This was more or less

 
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 on 6/1/12 at 7:03pm
mhurricane's picture

^^ I wonder what school you

 
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 on 6/1/12 at 9:01pm

The difference between successful people and others is largely a habit - a controlled habit of doing every task better, faster and more efficiently.

slader23's picture

mhurricane: ^^ I wonder what

 
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 on 6/2/12 at 12:27am

Keep it together and you will go far..

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immaculatedx: Hitch: This

IB
(King Kong, 1,090
 
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 on 6/2/12 at 12:55am
immaculatedx's picture

seedy

 
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 on 6/2/12 at 11:36am

"Know thyself"

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