Let me get it straight, till now not more than 20 hedge funds are in China and short selling is not allowed. We don't know how things will go and how the hedge fund strategies in US fit there.
How will hedge fund fit in China? Anyone has good opinions on that?
Do you mean a china only fund? I don't think it'll be much of an issue. The last fund I was at had 30% of AUM in China and was absolutely killing it (multi-baggers galore).
Do you mean a china only fund? I don't think it'll be much of an issue. The last fund I was at had 30% of AUM in China and was absolutely killing it (multi-baggers galore).
I know that a decent amount of US hedge funds are picking up on the fact that they can pay brilliant Tsinghua/Beida kids next to nothing in Beijing. Pine River, Magnetar for example. Also check out Lei Zhang's Hillhouse Capital - it's something like $6-7Bn now.
I know that a decent amount of US hedge funds are picking up on the fact that they can pay brilliant Tsinghua/Beida kids next to nothing in Beijing. Pine River, Magnetar for example. Also check out Lei Zhang's Hillhouse Capital - it's something like $6-7Bn now.
Thanks Reality. Tried to initiate a conversation with HC but apparently my cv is not good enough to make them interested...
will try out Pine River and Magnetar after work....
yeah spark. this is mission impossible. there are literally no Hfs in mainland.....
I checked with all my sell-side friends to dig them all out but still less than 10 names in Beijing.
another reason is personal tax rate is ridicuolusly high in Mainland...
cuz I am going to do my phd in Beijing...
I need to keep myself in the market . Meanwhile, making some money to finance my phd....
Deep-research/fundamental HF in Asia (Originally Posted: 01/03/2015)
Hi guys:
I'm a monkey working in the Apac region, and was just wondering what are some deep-research/fundamental HFs in Asia? The style I have in mind is more research oriented (like Greenlight) and less trading oriented, so inherently also more long-term, I think. If you could mention some names that would be great. Many thanks!
I'm interested to hear more about Asian HFs - seems like launches have been picking up a lot as of late, and are of a good size as well - nearly half the number of >$1b firms as in the UK.
I would like to find out more info on breaking in, career trajectory/path, your opinions on potential (short term/medium/long), strategies, opportunities, compensation, and any other advice/reading sources you may have, please.
Would esp like to hear from experienced/knowledgeable people who maybe have worked in finance in Asia or have had exposure to Asian HFs or HF professionals in the West who can comment on their firm's Asia operations - looking at you, Bondarb/Pink Money etc. thanks!
I deleted and re-posted the last few ones because of irrelevant comments/unnecessary monkey shit throwing. Don't really want to get off-topic on a serious thread.....
“...all truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.”
- Schopenhauer
Between Chanos calling out China as a bubble and the new laws for securities trading on the way (cf. China Approves Stock Index Futures, Margin Trading, Short Sales 2010-01-08 10:35:30.973 GMT),I would expect now is a big moment for hedge funds and the Chinese markets.
Does anyone know of any U.S. hedge funds oriented towards the Chinese markets? I expect with the new shortsale and indexing laws many funds will start looking towards these markets. Do you all think it's likely that major funds will open Asian offices to exploit this or will they run these operations from the U.S.?
There have been many great comebacks throughout history. Jesus was dead but then came back as an all-powerful God-Zombie.
Most macro funds trade chinese/hk stocks, rates, and currency already. It is really not neccesary to be in China to get exposure, although obviously they have an "on-shore" market and an "off-shore" market for foreigners. However, you cant just open an office in china and trade the onshore market and it isnt yet clear whether the new products will allow foreign investors to get access to the domestic markets.
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Culturally, legally etc. ? ??
Let me get it straight, till now not more than 20 hedge funds are in China and short selling is not allowed. We don't know how things will go and how the hedge fund strategies in US fit there.
Short selling is fine.
It's not legally allowed, but thanks to quants and derivatives, they effectively do the same thing.
Do you mean a china only fund? I don't think it'll be much of an issue. The last fund I was at had 30% of AUM in China and was absolutely killing it (multi-baggers galore).
May I ask which fund were you at?
Looking for HFs with Beijing office? (Originally Posted: 08/16/2012)
Folks, any idea?
I know that a decent amount of US hedge funds are picking up on the fact that they can pay brilliant Tsinghua/Beida kids next to nothing in Beijing. Pine River, Magnetar for example. Also check out Lei Zhang's Hillhouse Capital - it's something like $6-7Bn now.
Thanks Reality. Tried to initiate a conversation with HC but apparently my cv is not good enough to make them interested...
will try out Pine River and Magnetar after work....
Wow... you're looking for a HF in Beijing??!
yeah spark. this is mission impossible. there are literally no Hfs in mainland..... I checked with all my sell-side friends to dig them all out but still less than 10 names in Beijing. another reason is personal tax rate is ridicuolusly high in Mainland...
cuz I am going to do my phd in Beijing... I need to keep myself in the market . Meanwhile, making some money to finance my phd....
there are none
To share with other monkeys, HFs with BJ office:
Och Ziff, Keywise, Ding Tian, Hillhouse, Sansar Capital, Hunter Global, Cube Capital
To share with other monkeys, HFs with BJ office:
Och Ziff, Keywise, Ding Tian, Hillhouse, Sansar Capital, Hunter Global, Cube Capital
If I recall correctly, Tiger Global has a BJ office.
Thank you GreenwichForLife. It seems that Tiger Global moving to Shanghai.......unfortunately..
HFs based in Singapore/HK (Originally Posted: 12/21/2012)
Hey there,
Anyone in a good mood to pull up a list of HFs based in Singapore/HK, from a premium subscription?
I know that I can get it through google and have been doing it for some weeks, but better to have as wide a net as possible
Cheers
Premium subscription as in LinkedIn?
I meant something like CapitalIQ etc
Deep-research/fundamental HF in Asia (Originally Posted: 01/03/2015)
Hi guys:
I'm a monkey working in the Apac region, and was just wondering what are some deep-research/fundamental HFs in Asia? The style I have in mind is more research oriented (like Greenlight) and less trading oriented, so inherently also more long-term, I think. If you could mention some names that would be great. Many thanks!
Most funds in Asia are equity L/S... well mostly very long biased and fundamental..
Asian HFs (Originally Posted: 12/14/2011)
I'm interested to hear more about Asian HFs - seems like launches have been picking up a lot as of late, and are of a good size as well - nearly half the number of >$1b firms as in the UK.
I would like to find out more info on breaking in, career trajectory/path, your opinions on potential (short term/medium/long), strategies, opportunities, compensation, and any other advice/reading sources you may have, please.
Would esp like to hear from experienced/knowledgeable people who maybe have worked in finance in Asia or have had exposure to Asian HFs or HF professionals in the West who can comment on their firm's Asia operations - looking at you, Bondarb/Pink Money etc. thanks!
Jesus, how many threads are you going to make? This is the third one I've seen from you on this topic.
I deleted and re-posted the last few ones because of irrelevant comments/unnecessary monkey shit throwing. Don't really want to get off-topic on a serious thread.....
this looks interesting bump
why are ppl giving it minuses?
Read her other posts and you will see why.
China-oriented Hedge Funds (Originally Posted: 01/11/2010)
Between Chanos calling out China as a bubble and the new laws for securities trading on the way (cf. China Approves Stock Index Futures, Margin Trading, Short Sales 2010-01-08 10:35:30.973 GMT),I would expect now is a big moment for hedge funds and the Chinese markets.
Does anyone know of any U.S. hedge funds oriented towards the Chinese markets? I expect with the new shortsale and indexing laws many funds will start looking towards these markets. Do you all think it's likely that major funds will open Asian offices to exploit this or will they run these operations from the U.S.?
Rogge Capital Management?
Most macro funds trade chinese/hk stocks, rates, and currency already. It is really not neccesary to be in China to get exposure, although obviously they have an "on-shore" market and an "off-shore" market for foreigners. However, you cant just open an office in china and trade the onshore market and it isnt yet clear whether the new products will allow foreign investors to get access to the domestic markets.
Thanks very much for the insights.
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