Transfer to Villanova or Temple?
I am about to finish up community college (had to because of price, and in high school, I didn't give a shit sadly), and I am conflicted to either go to Temple University or Villanova University. I haven't applied to either as I have to go to Basic Training for the Air National Guard soon, but I will after training. Temple would be completely free versus the Guard would only cover a small amount of the cost for Nova. Which school is more worth it, in terms to connections to IB and overall value-cost?
Villanova.
How much debt are you willing to take on? Also, I'm currently trying to join the ANG and from the Philly area --- What base will you be at?
Well yeah the debt would be an issue for sure, but if Nova would provide me with better opportunities than temple, I guess it would be worth it. I'll be at Horsham Air Guard Station.
Honestly, try Carnegie mellon and Pitt (for the pooled resources and proximity to Carnegie). I hear Villanova is a bit better, but still among national scenes, it falls short.
Can't fault you if your Temple tuition is free, but it's due to your GI bill not academic marks, so it's difficult to sell your profile later in the career recruiting..
I'm hungry for chicken or rice, what should I do? Try flying to Japan and eating sushi, that's what I'd do.
Yeah, see, irrelevant and shit advice.
Temple is fine if you want to stay in Philly and do corporate finance. If your goal is banking in NYC, pay the extra for nova. You can probably get scholarships or grants if you apply for them.
Yeah banking would be the goal. Thanks for your input.
he went to Villanova MSF, sits on alumni boards and advertises stuff about his alma mater all day, so he obviously suggests Villanova with numerous conflicts of interest. OP you can have him.
If NYC banking is that easy, imagine how silly are Penn students, if they just can go to Villanova and enter banking too. Everyone in the world wants to go to NYC banking. Thinking Nova is particularly advantageous is laughable.
If you have personal constraints against relocation, I can respect that. But undergraduate degrees these days are like high school diplomas - ABOUT EVERYONE HAS A BACHELORS DEGREE. so while you think you got good deals with these two schools, you simply expose yourself to have bottom jobs in the economy and need to return for some masters with much less generous financial aid
That's why I suggested Pitt (in-state price) or Carnegie Mellon (deeper sticker, generous needs based aid). but really, do whatever you want.
I didn't go to Villanova for UG, which is what the OP is asking.
Your advice is irrelevant because 1) it isn't what the OP is asking and 2) CMU and Pitt are no where near eastern PA. You've obviously never been to the state of PA because you just recommended two schools at the exact opposite from Villanova and Pitt.
Penn students are going to one of the best schools in the country. None of them are looking at Nova, Pitt, Temple or CMU. Not sure what that example has to do with anything though.
Love how you think Nova is laughable, but recommend Pitt. One has banking on campus, one doesn't. Nothing wrong with Pitt (I just had drinks with a friend of mine that went to Pitt), but this just shows how bad your advice is.
TNA I think you're a nice guy hosting the MSFs alright. But I think the interests of your alma mater are violating your objective judgment, and that's disturbing. Esuric knows enough times when you recommend Nova but failed to disclose your alumni status that encourages your advertisements.
MSF and Undergrad would generally carry same reputations, but many schools are handing out tons of degrees these days, just to keep the cash engine going. That's why undergraduate is now commodity like high school, and soon enough master's at places will be that too.
I said Nova's access to career choices, comparing to UPenn - or any of the ivy leagues - is laughable, and that's why I don't strongly recommend Temple or Nova because they lack competitiveness before OP realizes it. Read it straight as I did not mention Pitt or CMU in the comparison. I also would not recommend my undergrad school if you're aiming for banking, I don't know if that makes you feel better.
The point, imo, is that OP wants to stay in the Philadelphia area and is stationed in the Philadelphia area. Carnegie Mellon and Pitt are 6 hours away.
Source: College visits, living 20 minutes from Philadelphia growing up
And, IMO, the best school in the area, after Wharton, is Villanova. Unless I'm missing something.
The options are basically Penn, Drexel, Villanova, Rutgers Camden, and Temple. Maybe some lesser state schools in there too and Phila U, but those five are probably the only real options.
Disturbing? Really? Are you shaken to your core about it?
As a recap, OP clearly stated that he needed to stay in Philly, hence his consideration of Nova and Temple. Pitt and CMU, while great PA options, are nowhere near Philly and thus, not relevant at all, as TNA said.
In terms of bias, even if @TNA" were to have one, it is absolutely no different than anyone else on this board. Do you think a Stanford grad is going to give Harvard more credit at the expense of Stanford? Do you think a McKinsey employee is going to give BCG more credit at the expense of McKinsey?
There are no objective truths to ranking Villanova vs. Temple, so all an OP can do is gather information, from multiple sources, and make an intelligent decision. Who cares if a response is clearly in the bag one way or another (and I'm hardly saying TNA is). It's only one data point.
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