UBS Tech vs. Merrill Tech
Any thoughts re: deal flow, people, culture, job stability, etc.?
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I heard overall for Ibanking UBS is more reputable than ML....and clearly stability wise you would go with UBS
UBS definitely a better option, but they are a cut below GS/MS/CS and even below DB.
even below DB? HAHAHAA thanks for the laugh!
who's below DB tech? perhaps Wachovia?
haha... i'd never go to DB.
I'd go to BofA before DB.
Why would you even consider Merrill/BofA over UBS? What a joke.
You guys are idiots. DB has done more M&A and more debt offerings in tech over the last 3 years in deal numbers and volume than UBS; only thing UBS is better at is equity-related and the IPO market is nonexistent everywhere right now.
Merrill has done more than both historically but who the heck knows what is going to happen to their practice. And if you are talking west coast, Merrill was never super-focused out here either; they had a bigger presence in NY with IT and business services tech, similar to Citi. For SF west coast, I would take DB over UBS for sure. Maybe a year ago I take Merrill over both but there is a ton of uncertainty with the BOA-Merrill integration. Whatever the case may be, after GS/MS/CS there is a huge drop off in the level of deal volume coming your way in tech.
DB vs. UBS.... go look at the league tables... Total M&A 2008, DB isn't anywhere close to UBS.
DB is a joke.
http://www.thomsonreuters.com/content/PDF/financial/league_tables/ma/20…
read it and weap DB lovers
as i scan through the first few slides all i see is UBS ranked over DB on every table....
IBnutz - that is only for 4Q08. For FY2008 I see UBS #7 with 15% share and DB at #8 with 14% share (from dealogic). Not a huge difference so why don't you just calm down over there.
BigBear - I can only comment on job stability and on that note I think it's obvious which bank is in better shape.
IBnutz, you are a moron. This has nothing to do with total M&A. This is strictly for TECHNOLOGY sector M&A. Go do an SDC run and check out the league tables specifically focused on tech, not total M&A, which is irrelevant when talking about specific group strength, ESPECIALLY regional offices like Houston/LA/SF.
Yeah forgot to point that out as well. Also, Tech was a very small slice of the activity in 4Q08 so not a great proxy. The numbers I posted above were for TMT M&A FY08
dumb ass, you said DB has done more "M&A and more debt deals"
so... you'e wrong... they haven't done more M&A
and no one is doing any debt deals right now
honestly, DB is a joke of a bank, its just a DCM desk with a few add ons. go away little man.
lol, are you really that stupid IBnutz..how any BB, let alone company, hired you truly amazes me
ps..just for fun..
hahah...fag
oh yeah, and i dont remember seeing anyone specify anything about any regional offices on this post...
look dude, quit getting all sensetive because you work at DB and you couldn't get a job at a real IB.
When a kid asks a question of 'Merrill Tech vs. UBS Tech', that almost immediately implies he is talking about their SF/bay area offices, because 80% of tech deals are sourced through those offices.
When looking at specific groups, using total company league tables is stupid. After GS/MS, most banks are strong in a few groups and mediocre in the rest. For tech in specific, DB has a better reputation and has seen a lot more deal flow since around 2002, when a bunch of the guys at CS left after Quattrone was ousted and took over DB's tech practice.
ever heard of a joke? like i had time to watch some tv show... as shitty as the market is, if you're really in this business then you know how nuts its been lately doing aimless pitching.
IBnutz, you're a fucking idiot. How's everything in pre-school? Try to pay attention during story time and comprehend basic vocabulary.
Uh, no he didn't...
DB has done more TECH M&A deals than UBS. Learn how to fucking read you bloody idiot.
Come on gents, lets keep this on topic. The OP has asked UBS Tech vs ML Tech. So how do these two companies rank against each other in terms on Tech dealflow?
Just my 2c.
They're both about even. Merrill has historically done better, but neither team is a world-beater. All in all, I would take UBS. One, the deal flow has been better of late. They actually poached a few MDs recently, so they're committed to the group. Two, they're in San Francisco, which is a heck of a lot more fun than the south bay. And three, with the BOA integration, there will be (and already has been) blood-letting in the Merrill groups. Merrill's tech practice blows BOA's away so I would hardly worry about them closing up shop or anything, but it's definitely a less stable situation than UBS.
bunch of pitty little analysts in here.... i shouldn't even stoop so low as to communicate with these pukes
take your 60k a year and your shitty bonus and shove it
Some insight on UBS..
http://www.whatupatubs.blogspot.com/
haha, right... it makes sense that you can't come up with anything better than that
IBnutz, you're a complete idiot...first i thought you were an analyst at a BB, but after your 60k + small bonus comment, i have no clue if you're even in the business yet...unless you're an associate, which would make you the most immature associate i've ever met
btw..DB is not looking like a bad place to be right now...their one of the only BBs to not receive government funding (Barclays being the other one, though they did receive funding from sovereign wealth funds)
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