100m loss at a market neutral platform?

I guess you've all read the bbg article on the Balyasny team that is down 100m.

I'm working at a Big 4 and I still have a hard time understanding how is it possible?


Thanks for the explanation.

 

Was in an AHG where he was a very large holder...thought it was extremely odd to see BAM involved there. 

 

More common in credit/illiquid stuff. It's not out of the question for a large book. If you can make 200 you can certainly lose 100. Saw a few teams at my previous MM lose that much in 2022.

 

Almost everyone was down in HY in 2022, this magnitude sounds right.

Welcome to credit my friends! Land of if it goes down, we buy more. Things like timing your trade and risk management are overrated and for losers.

 
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CLOs/structured credit, some distressed, converts, vol derivatives (swaptions/variance/vol swaps/warrants), less-liquid EM credit are all things that come to mind. 

 

George blew up at Citadel so this wasn't a major surprise. A lot of guys got burnt in situations like SFR (Altice France), Casino and Adler this year in Europe. It's funny because EUR high yield has had a good year and is up around 10% YTD. No doubt George and team will resurface at the next pod after a well earned break!  

 
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