Learning BRIC languages for Professional Development
Are any of you doing intensive language programs in order to get into the job market of any of the BRIC countries? - or any other countries for that matter. Is English all you need? This article from BusinessBecause explores that concept: http://www.businessbecause.com/commentary/to-bric…
Personally, I'm can't decide if learning Mandarin is worth the time and effort for the benefits.
im aiming to begin to learn brazilian porkchopese
we shall have much discussification about this
china is a bit harder due to the way that the government restricts securities trading and investing to non chinese nationals...
I think trying to learn mandarin through night classes is honestly a pretty big waste of time. Chinese is definitely not a language that one can pick up without many, many years of substantive, perpetual learning. The entire language is based on a completely different system than the romance languages.
I cant quite say much about this, but I asked a similar question once to a London banker. He said that unless you're really,really good at the language (as in you could fully comprehend a meeting in the native language and write a full high-grade professional report on it), there is no point in learning it for professional development. I think M&I had a post about languages.
Curious...do you think taking a specific language for all 4 years of University helps? I mean would you actually know how to speak, read and write in Russian,for example??
I don't know, but russian fascinates me more than chinese or hindi...Russians are fun to do business with :P
I agree with the Banker, however there is a big twist in learning a different language: if you can speak 1,2 or 3 other languages, your capacity to learn other cultures, show empathy to another person in general and to inspire trust greatly improves. There is a ton of research about it. Learning a language is not only about getting the grammar right, it is about molding into that culture, to write speak differently, to understand differently.
I would always suggest to learn another language, it will help in the long run
I've been living in China for three months now, studying the language part time, and its a bitch. The only way you can master this language is years of dedicated study. If you happen to work in bonds there will be a huge opportunity here for you in a few years, as China is working to get their internal bond market on line and then open it up to the world.
"In Chinese, the pitch of each word affects its meaning. Mai, for instance, with the falling tone, means 'to sell.' But mai with first a low falling and then a rising tone means precisely the opposite, 'to buy.' Even Chinese people find it confusing. At the Shanghai Stock Exchange the brokers use slang to make sure they don't mix up buy and sell orders." -Tim Clissold
If you're only working on it part time, go with a romance language.
Hindi is a waste of time to learn. I've worked in India and while being fluent in it while help you bullshit with your coworkers, if you speak in English, people will know what you're saying. If you're going to India for the long haul, I'd still recommend being intermediate to advanced in it so you can gain favor with your bosses and whatnot more easily, but if you're just there for a few summers/to get experience and coming back to the states, then don't bother IMO.
Yeah, I lived in India (Mumbai) for two years. You really don't need to know Hindi whatsoever - the person cleaning your windows who just came from their village 3 hours away will likely know English.
what do you guys think about Spanish, or Japanese? I'm not particularly interested in working in South America but the language is easier than Chinese. Japanese, I have no clue how much demand is out there.
Japanese, from what students here tell me, is harder than Mandarin. If you are going for an Asian language go with Mandarin...
Where in S. America have you considered? Remember that the language in Brazil is Portuguese
I've been told the opposite, that Japanese is much easier because they actually have somewhat of an alphabet system where characters actually represent sounds and no tone marks, where as Mandarin has 4 different tone marks and characters represent words not sounds. Japanese does however have different levels of politeness which may be hard for some people to grasp.
If I hadn't chosen to learn Chinese I'd have gone with Portugese
Brazil has insane potential, it's a great place to live, and the bitches are SMOKIN down there.
If you can speak Portugese fluently, Brazilian panties will drop much faster than the New Year's Eve Ball in Times Square. I had some good experiences there because I happened to be from a part of India which until recently was a part of Portugal. There is deep suspicion towards anyone who cannot speak Brazilian (Portugese), but if you speak Brazilian (Portugese) fluently, you will love the beaches of Rio.
I don't speak Portuguese and I already love the beaches of Rio. lol
Really want to learn it though, with it making Brazilian vagina panties drop faster a huge plus.
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